When's the last time you guys had to checkmate with a Bishop and a Knight?

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Honchkrowabcd

I've never taken the time to learn how to checkmate with just a bishop and knight vs a lone king and I thought I was gonna have to pay the price later on in my chess journey but I've played over 7000 games on this website and not ONCE have I ever been in that situation, so I was wondering if you guys ever have to do it

pikachule

Isn't as common in high level chess as most noobs think. But your fear is well founded, I also had to learn the importance of this mate in tournament. In fact it was the U14 California Championship. My match ended in a draw which ultimately led to my defeat in the tournament. I'm always happy to share my knowledge with the less experienced community. DM me I'll teach you everything I know.

Honchkrowabcd
pikachule wrote:

Isn't as common in high level chess as most noobs think. But your fear is well founded, I also had to learn the importance of this mate in tournament. In fact it was the U14 California Championship. My match ended in a draw which ultimately led to my defeat in the tournament. I'm always happy to share my knowledge with the less experienced community. DM me I'll teach you everything I know.

Thank you so much man I appreciate advanced players like you helping less experienced players in the community

YongjiaL

Hello!

vamsim7
Honchkrow wrote:
pikachule wrote:

Isn't as common in high level chess as most noobs think. But your fear is well founded, I also had to learn the importance of this mate in tournament. In fact it was the U14 California Championship. My match ended in a draw which ultimately led to my defeat in the tournament. I'm always happy to share my knowledge with the less experienced community. DM me I'll teach you everything I know.

Thank you so much man! It's great to see advanced players like you helping worse chess players out. We need more people like you

can't tell if this is sarcasm or not based on the previous thread you made

vamsim7

Can't speak from experience but many 2000+ (USCF) players I have spoken to said they only encountered bishop + knight mate maybe 1-2 times over thousands of games both otb and online and two bishop mate around 20-50 times apparently. So if a beginner is going to study a mating pattern two bishops is more common and simple than bishop + knight

Honchkrowabcd
vamsim7 wrote:
Honchkrow wrote:
pikachule wrote:

Isn't as common in high level chess as most noobs think. But your fear is well founded, I also had to learn the importance of this mate in tournament. In fact it was the U14 California Championship. My match ended in a draw which ultimately led to my defeat in the tournament. I'm always happy to share my knowledge with the less experienced community. DM me I'll teach you everything I know.

Thank you so much man! It's great to see advanced players like you helping worse chess players out. We need more people like you

can't tell if this is sarcasm or not based on the previous thread you made

It isn't, none of my threads are

Honchkrowabcd
vamsim7 wrote:

Can't speak from experience but many 2000+ (USCF) players I have spoken to said they only encountered bishop + knight mate maybe 1-2 times over thousands of games both otb and online and two bishop mate around 20-50 times apparently. So if a beginner is going to study a mating pattern two bishops is more common and simple than bishop + knight

Thanks! Luckily I know two bishops mate but I think I've only encountered it once

MARattigan

Had a bet on the forum about a year ago, but it was about defending. Some fellow bet me he could beat me in 17 moves from a position where it was obviously impossible, then somebody else wanted to see how fast he could beat me from a mate in 31 position. Took him 36, but I tried the same position against SF15 afterwards with colours reversed and mated in 23, so he was playing more accurately than SF at least. Never had it in a real game.

varelse1

Like Obama first term.

Maybe Bush jr second term.

Hard to remember that far back.

MARattigan
vamsim7 wrote:

... two bishops is more common ... than bishop + knight

Bit surprising. Where did you get that from?

vamsim7
MARattigan wrote:
vamsim7 wrote:

... two bishops is more common ... than bishop + knight

Bit surprising. Where did you get that from?

as I said I asked multiple 2000+ players at a tournament

MARattigan
vamsim7 wrote:
MARattigan wrote:
vamsim7 wrote:

... two bishops is more common ... than bishop + knight

Bit surprising. Where did you get that from?

as I said I asked multiple 2000+ players at a tournament

May not be statistically reliable though.

Bishop and knight actually makes an appearance in Müller & Lamprecht's mega database stats (0.02%) but two bishops doesn't.

magipi
ChessGT17 wrote:

Really? I'm not surprised. It's almost a known fact that 2 bishops are much more commoner than knight and bishop

What

mikewier

I have had this ending occur three times in tens of thousands of blitz games. I was not able to win when I entered the ending with about 10 seconds left. I drew twice when defending—one player did not know how to mate and the other, a master, did not have time to win it.

So, it comes up infrequently and is hard to win when there are only seconds left.

Goose2999happy
I have mated with two 2️⃣ bishops
medelpad
Once at a club in a causal it’s game
MaetsNori

A handful of times that I can remember, in actual games.

Though I do practice this mate quite regularly. It's one of my weekend drills.

What I really should be doing is drilling the Lucena and Philidor positions, instead ... as those are entirely more useful to know inside and out ... but it's hard to deny the harmony of a B+N+K mate.

Tempetown
ChessGT17 wrote:

Really? I'm not surprised. It's almost a known fact that 2 bishops are much more commoner than knight and bishop

It's almost a known fact? Really?

nonamepotato2

I had about 1 minute left in a rapid game to win and i somehow figured it out.