so what is your point?
which mikail is better?
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tal is more of a attacking player and they look the same strength
ANYONE ELSE WANT TO VOTE?
Somebodysson wrote:
we've already established in these forums that Tal and Morphy were great only because they played terrible opponents. Tal was a great gambler, that is all. He got good results by playing fast, so he got a lot of moves in, and by playing lots of moves he increased his chances of accidentaly hitting a good one. Botvinnik was great because he insisted that he play his opponents when they should have been in the hospital. He got hospital bed odds.
Clearly, neither of them was any good at all. The greatest Mikhail of them all is Mikhail Jackson. Plus he could dance too.
Oh sure, because Petrosian and Adolf Anderssen were just such beginners 
I wouldn't necessarily call Botvinnik non-attacking... he could systematically dismantle his opponents like a cheap appliance...
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1032050
I'll put my vote in for Botvinnik - play that is 'simple' but strong with a useful space advantage to launch attacks at any place on the board. As for Tal, although I respect him and his games can be pretty, his play and reasoning is way outside of my comprehesion.
Dec 13, 2013
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I like Tal style of agression much better and entertaining than Botvinnik.
BUT I will vote Botvinnik because he was the better player overall and lead to huge advances in understanding of chess. Sometimes he did not calculate so well, but strategically he couldn't be matched
Somebodysson wrote:
we've already established in these forums that Tal and Morphy were great only because they played terrible opponents. Tal was a great gambler, that is all. He got good results by playing fast, so he got a lot of moves in, and by playing lots of moves he increased his chances of accidentaly hitting a good one. Botvinnik was great because he insisted that he play his opponents when they should have been in the hospital. He got hospital bed odds.
Clearly, neither of them was any good at all. The greatest Mikhail of them all is Mikhail Jackson. Plus he could dance too.
You've only established yourself a fool at best and troll at worst.
As for the subject matter of this thread, I cast my vote for Botvinnik. This is one of his best games (IMO):
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1032787
I personally like the craziness of Tal's style better, so he gets my vote. However, I don't find Botvinnik's style "boring", just more technical and less over-the-top than Tal's.
Savage wrote:
Chessmetrics's "math" is well known to give some absurd results. Sorry, but it's bunk. And you're conveniently ignoring that the "nowhere to be seen" Tal cleaned Botvinnik's clock in 1960.
Tal was 53 Chessmetrics points ahead of Botvinnik before that match. You should do some research instead of sharing your bunk with us.
Is that table on pg.1 uscf points?
tal-7
botvinnik-5
anyone else? first to 20 wins.
can i double vote?
messi2 wrote:
can i double vote?
you can only vote twice so yes. but not three times. who do you vote for?
tal
tal-8
botvinnik-5
i am predicting tal will win but who knows?
tal-5
botvinnik-3