Who are the nicest chess players at the top?

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DarknisMetalDragon
SmyslovFan wrote:

Based on how their peers reacted to them, the two nicest world champions were Max Euwe and Vishy Anand. Max Euwe became one of the most respected presidents of FIDE. When Anand played Topalov, almost every elite player (for example, Kramnik, Carlsen, Kasparov) helped Anand to prepare. This was a rare case of the most liked candidate facing the most reviled candidate in recent memory.

Kramnik, Tal, and Smyslov deserve honourable mentions.

Anand in an interview kept criticizing Kasparov. Kasparov offered Boris Gelfand the chance to be a second against Anand in 2012, but it was declined.

Interview:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgQ6OwQ2mCY

flatters1
JJBooy wrote:
Insanistis wrote:

Who cares about being nice if you are the best at what you do. - Einstein

I did a quick search and was able to find no references to Einstein saying that. Do you have a source?  

Thanks JJBooy for keeping us honest! ;-)

ChastityMoon

@flatters1

Thanks for making that point.  Highly doubtful Einstein would ever say something like that.  I'd speculate that whoever said he did is a lying schmuck.

chuckfloyd2011
bobbyDK wrote:
chuckfloyd2011 skrev:

Listing evidence for being nice is different than just saying someone's nice because that's what you've heard.  In 2010  Anand donated his gold medal to the charitable organisation "The Foundation" to be auctioned off for the benefit of underprivileged children.

Until someone has higher evidence than this, Anand is  the nicest chess player in the world.

without knowing too much about Anand, that doesn't make someone nice. even mean guys can do something nice.

he may be a super nice person but the act alone doens't make someone nice.

nice is how you interact with other people.

In 1991, Kasparov donated his $1,000,000 World Championship trophy to the earthquake victims in Armenia. He had earlier donated his world championship winnings to the victims of the Chernobyl nuclear accident.

Sounds like Kasparov did 2 nice things. Therefore Kasparov has the lead. Kasparov #1 nicest and Anand #2.   At least there is hard evidence for making the point.

JamesCoons

He is not at the very top any more but Gregory Kaidenov is a really nice guy.

ozzie_c_cobblepot
JamesCoons wrote:

He is not at the very top any more but Gregory Kaidenov is a really nice guy.

Yup.

*Kaidanov

bobbyDK
chuckfloyd2011 skrev:
bobbyDK wrote:
chuckfloyd2011 skrev:

Listing evidence for being nice is different than just saying someone's nice because that's what you've heard.  In 2010  Anand donated his gold medal to the charitable organisation "The Foundation" to be auctioned off for the benefit of underprivileged children.

Until someone has higher evidence than this, Anand is  the nicest chess player in the world.

without knowing too much about Anand, that doesn't make someone nice. even mean guys can do something nice.

he may be a super nice person but the act alone doens't make someone nice.

nice is how you interact with other people.

In 1991, Kasparov donated his $1,000,000 World Championship trophy to the earthquake victims in Armenia. He had earlier donated his world championship winnings to the victims of the Chernobyl nuclear accident.

Sounds like Kasparov did 2 nice things. Therefore Kasparov has the lead. Kasparov #1 nicest and Anand #2.   At least there is hard evidence for making the point.

however there does not exist non-selfish good deeds.

the act of giving charity can make you sleep good at night.

niceforkinmove

IMO lots of the top chess players seem like nice people.     Kasparov (with his accusations against IBM and comments about women) and Fischer had allot of attention and so made people sort of expect that chess players are maladjusted.

 

It is a relief that the current top players seem so ... normal.  Smile 

Mainline_Novelty
niceforkinmove wrote:

IMO lots of the top chess players seem like nice people.     Kasparov (with his accusations against IBM and comments about women) and Fischer had allot of attention and so made people sort of expect that chess players are maladjusted.

 

It is a relief that the current top players seem so ... normal.   

Actually, IMO his IBM cheating accusations were reasonably well founded.

niceforkinmove
Mainline_Novelty wrote:
niceforkinmove wrote:

IMO lots of the top chess players seem like nice people.     Kasparov (with his accusations against IBM and comments about women) and Fischer had allot of attention and so made people sort of expect that chess players are maladjusted.

 

It is a relief that the current top players seem so ... normal.   

Actually, IMO his IBM cheating accusations were reasonably well founded.

He complained that he couldn't see the machine play logs before the match but the team could see his games.   This may seem unfair to some but it is not cheating.

 

Then based on my memory his other allegations involved him saying that the moves were too "human like."  Bottom line he expected the supercomputer to play like his 1997 laptop and it didn't.  

His behavior was really embarrassing.  I don't think anyone in the chess community would put up with it if a top player accused another top player of cheating on such flimsy "evidence."  But since the IBM team included people who were not top chess players Kasparov and certain chess media seemed to think it was ok to make such harsh accusations on such flimsy grounds.  As if the people on the IBM team were not deserving of any respect or dignity.  

Kasparov was the darling of allot of the chess media.  They tended to defend him no matter how extreme.  

 

My point is that both Fischer and Kasparov tended to get huge breaks from the chess world and so tended make the rest of the world view chess players as somewhat warped people.  

 

Kramnik and Anand are really the first to have normal personalities.  Interestingly they were often criticized by the warped chess media for not being "fighters."

niceforkinmove

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/sep/11/3

 

Regarding Judit Polgar:

"Before they first met in Spain a few years ago, Kasparov described her as a "circus puppet" and said that women chess players should stick to having children."


It's comments like this that the chess world would give top chess players a "free pass" on but would make the rest of the world think chess players were crude human beings.  


Again IMO it was Kramnik and Anand who really started to change that image.  IMO Kramnik had the most attacks because he actually beat Kasparov who so many in the chess world idolized. But Kramnik weathered the storm where he insisted Kasparov stick to the contract they both signed.  And after  Anand beat Kramnik he also did chess a good turn in that he is also quite clear that chess players should play the game as best they can and that does not mean they can be rude to others outside of chess.    IMO both players have been great examples for future players.    

 


jpd303

Dr.Lenny Bongcloud M.D PhD esq

SmyslovFan

While I admire Anand and Kramnik, it is completely wrong to consider these two as the ones who "started" to change an image of chess players. 

Max Euwe was one of the great gentlemen of the game, and a world champion. Vasily Smyslov was a consummate gentleman. Mikhail Tal's wit and generous spirit is legendary. Boris Spassky was very sporting throughout his career, sometimes to his obvious detriment. 

Yes, poor sports have won the world championship. But not all world champions before Kramnik were poor sports.

As an aside, one of the really good guys has just set a benchmark that may never be equaled. Peter Svidler is now the seven-time champion of Russia!

marshaltc

Ehsan Ghaem-Maghami is a chess grandmaster  from Iran .In 2009, he won a 20-game combined match (four classical, four rapid and twelve blitz games) against Anatoly Karpov, played with a special rule: play to mate or dead draw. The overall score was eight wins to Ghaem-Maghami, seven wins to Karpov, and five draws

Radical_Drift
MisterNiceGuy-C wrote:

I would have to say me!

Of course. Who would doubt it with a name like that :)

fabelhaft

"when playing with a young Judith Polgar, he touched his Knight, but pulled back quickly. Then he moved his Queen""

No.

Crazychessplaya

"He picked up the knight gingerly, with his thumb and index finger. Then he raised it high above his head and examined it against the light. A German knight design, no doubt. Nothing special. He closed his fist over the piece and held it for a moment over the board. She was looking at him with amazement. No matter. He opened the fist, picked up the knight with the other hand, and put it back on its square."

Atomic-Leader

Me, because I would let all the other top players win against me. :)

Radical_Drift

Fischer... well I guess we can agree to disagree.

msaathreya

Magnus is so nice too! WORLD CHAMP IS COOL!