Who else with Average IQ sucks at Chess ( lol ) ?

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janniktr

brankz

I am not living in US so I don't know anything about that test. I have an IQ of 137 (as previously posted). I have concluded in my post on page 12 that a high IQ is definitely helping to be a good chess player, but hard study is also necessary. If you are not really smart, then you have to study more. 

Though, to be a Grandmaster needs a lot of talent and proper education. But I'd still say that almost everyone who is really interested in chess and can devote a lot of time into chess can achieve the FM title. This naturally excludes people with a very low (or even average) IQ.

brankz
janniktr wrote:

 almost everyone who is really interested in chess and can devote a lot of time into chess can achieve the FM title. This naturally excludes people with a very low (or even average) IQ.

50% of the population has an iq of 100 or below, so I don't see how this could be "almost everyone". I would think "almost everyone" would be more like 95-99% no?

as previously posted, I don't think someone who has an average iq will be able to obtain anything higher than ~2000-2100 with 5-10 years of uninterrupted serious chess study and training. 

brankz
ConnorMacleod_151 wrote:

IQ does'nt matter for chess.... what u need is a ...

Criminal Mindset.

 

yeah exactly. thanks for the admission.

WiJi

does chess.com rating reflects my iq?? i must be so smart! lol

brankz
WiJi wrote:

does chess.com rating reflects my iq?? i must be so smart! lol

no it probably doesn't. but you know what does? this

http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/SATIQ.aspx

brankz
josesie wrote:

 But i've gotta tell you that it only works with official raiting from the FIDE. 

ok

brankz
josesie wrote:

Another thing I forgot, that equation is right for professional chess players or people who had spend a lot of time aware learning to play chess during many years.

ok

brankz
josesie wrote:

IQ=((ELO-1150)*16/300)+100. Let´s do the exercise with ELO=2800, so IQ=188 that is obviously more than a genius. But i've gotta tell you that it only works with official raiting from the FIDE. For more information please visit the webpage i had posted in the last comment, the author is a very good brazilian chess player, his name is Hindemburg Melao Jr.

see. other people who have spent some time thinking about it more or less came to the same conclusion as I have. although I didn't take the time to work out an exact mathematical equation for the relationship. this equation is basically saying the same thing I am. 

brankz
janniktr wrote:

 I have an IQ of 137 (as previously posted). 

what a coincidence!!! I also have an iq of 137. I know this because I scored a 1400 on the SATI. http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/SATIQ.aspx

netzach

Intelligent people can be, and frequently are, dumb at chess. IQ is no guarantee of ability. Even devoted study will unlikely bring about achievement of GM (effectively ELO 2500+ nowadays) status unless natural talent at chess is present also.

kingspud

I have am IQ pf 135, which I've found is rather on the intelligent side yet I can't seem to get my OTB rating above 1600! I think one of my problems is that I also have ADD, which hinders my timed game play! It's very hard for me to stay focused and not want to make a move before I've checked out every option!

kingspud

I can study and play and practice but right when I sit down for a long tournament game I panic and move too fast!

Ziggyblitz

IQ is not everything. You may have an average IQ but have talent for music or have a very good memory.

I've known players with a talent for chess who played well (little study or experience) but showed little evidence of having a high IQ.

Of our three kids the one who is the best qualified and earns the most money also has the most enthusiasm and determination.

janniktr

I know an expert who definitely is not extremely smart, and he has not studied uninterrupted and seriously for 5-10 years (btw, the gap between 5 and 10 is pretty high...). 

Two questions to brankz: How old are you, what is your real rating and how long did you study chess seriously?

janniktr
Ziggyblitz hat geschrieben:

IQ is not everything. You may have an average IQ but have talent for music or have a very good memory. I've known players with a talent for chess who played well (little study or experience) but showed little evidence of having a high IQ. Of our three kids the one who is the best qualified and earns the most money also has the most enthusiasm and determination.

Thank you. IQ is not everything, and there are other factors.

There is no direct relationship between IQ and peak rating as other factors also interfere with the rating. You can't make up an equation for that.

Javan64
kingspud wrote:

I can study and play and practice but right when I sit down for a long tournament game I panic and move too fast!

"Sit on your hands."  This is great advice for tournament play IF TAKEN LITERALLY.  BTW, do the syllables in your name split BEFORE the "S" or AFTER the "S?"  Foot in Mouth

varelse1

85% of people believe that they are above average.

kingspud

KING and SPUD

chess playing couch potato!

kingspud

A teacher told me that once bit it is still very hard when your hyper

cabadenwurt
brankz wrote:
ConnorMacleod_151 wrote:

IQ does'nt matter for chess.... what u need is a ...

Criminal Mindset.

 

yeah exactly. thanks for the admission.

--- Thanks for all of the new posts.

A crimial mindset or perhaps just a bit of a mean streak ?