Who else with Average IQ sucks at Chess ( lol ) ?

Thanks for the recent posts. Well if one watches the Evening news one can see no end of people who seem to have more than the " standard deviation " lol. Mind you this takes us away from the topic ( & I do have a thread on the go for " odds and ends " etc ). 

One thing that we keep coming back to in this thread is of course the question of IQ ratings. I still have the feeling that IQ tests tend to lean towards testing memory capacity and having a very good memory is very important for Chess Players.There are other factors of course but the memory Question is essential.

In these forums there is a thread on the go ( in Hot Topics at this time ) where some people have tried to say that Paul Morphy was not all that good. He did of course manage to beat all of the top players of his day so he cannot have been all that bad. However people are trying to compare him to modern GMs which is not really fair. For one thing if Morphy were alive today he would have been able to study all of the changes that have occured in Chess theory since the 19th Century. Also he would have the advantage of studying with modern Chess Computers so he would be quite a different Chess Player today than he was in his time.

I don't know about that memory thing...mine is pretty good, but I have a friend who also became a master (whose memory has always sucked).

We all suck at chess ,though i'm sure most people using chess.com are above average I.Q( 105 being avg.)

Makes you wonder why it's not 100.

Thanks for the new posts.

I happen to like the theory in regards to needing a good memory because it give my an excuse for my play ( yes it is all about me  lol ). Since I have a very poor memory when it comes to names and numbers I can claim that my memory is trying to hold me back, even going way back to being in school and trying to memorize Poems, forget it.

I see that we have a thread on the go now about visualization. That was something that we covered here mainly in regards to blind-fold Chess but it is a very interesting point. Some players doing the blind-fold Chess thing would have several games going at once which blows my mind. 

I has a rrRRREEEAALLLY high IQ (according to the interrrrnets anyway, since nobody likes to psychometrically test a kitty) and I has a good brrrrain fur worrrrds AND numbers AND visualization but I'm still poor at chess 3:  But I AM getting BETTERRRR!!! See many people think they're bad just because they fail at first but nooo they've just got to PURRRRACTICE! >^.^ <

Thanks for the post WeisseSchachlade.

I see that we now have a thread on the go in relation to photographic memories. The name of Harry Nelson Pillsbury ( 1872 - 1906 ) came up in that thread due to the record that he set. Pillsbury once played 22 Chess games at the same time while blindfolded, needless to say he had a very good memory.   

I have a bit of a photogrrrraphic memorrry, I can see words in my head so I'm a rrrreally good speller, so if I purrrractice more I should have better photogrrraphic memorrry fur a chessboard, am I rrrright? >^-^< <3's

I don't quite trust anyone who trills that much.

Hey, you take that back, Marconi!

You tell him AndyClifton !

By the way Franken_Berry, your Phd is in which field ? ( please remind us ).

I still say he's Marconi.

Oh, never mind...

Dang, turns out it's Rubinstein!

That's not verrry nice to make fun of my accent AndyClifton.  Don't make me bite you!!!

Thanks for the recent posts, things seem to have calmed down again for now.

Recently I happened to be visiting a place where they had the TV set tuned to ESPN and the " World Cup Of Darts " was being shown ( I kid you not ). Now I gather that Darts is popular over in the UK in their pubs but the World Cup ? Mind you, there are serious Rock-Paper-Scissors players out there so what the heck. This however bring up a question that has been asked before in this and in similar threads on this site. How much of any talent comes from Genetics that a person is born with ? ( & how much practice is needed with the Darts ? ).    

There are several types of IQ. Mathmatical, language, logical, and then a combined one (just basing this off of remebering the ones I took years ago). Those with logical high iqs typically do batter at chess, followed by math. but the laguage high iqs seem not to translate into good chess. Seperating the four iqs is the best way to see. I have observed the corralation between theswe four iqs and various activities over the years ( i am sorry for my spelling, that part of my mind does not work like the rest haha)

Thanks for the post MichaelPorcelli.

Of course when the subject of talent comes up one can go beyond the IQ question and take a look at the World of Sports for example. When one considers the talented athletes that are spread around our planet one could ask what part of their success was genetics and what portion was hard work ? ( And what was the path leading them to discover their field of excellence ? ).