paul morphy was more dominant in his time than any other player he literly invented the beginning of the more modern chess
WHO IS THE GREATEST CHESS PLAYER OF ALL TIME? Defend your answer...
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restinpeace wrote:
it depends on what era you're asking mate.
when you want a greatest player before 19th century there are players like guioco piano and paul morphy. simple explanation "they owned their respective counterparts during that time"
early 1900's there's mikhail tal and alekhine.
mid 1900's - the greatest that time was bobby fischer
late 1980's to late 90's - we've got kasparov
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I hope that one helps.
Cheers
Morphy played in the Nineteenth Century. There was no player named "guioco piano".
Tal became famous in 1957-1958, won the title in 1960, and lost it in 1961, all before he turned 24. He then played competitively until his death in 1992. He probably knew how the pieces moved before 1950, but his career was in the second half of the 20th Century.
The current world champion is Viswanathan Anand, not Magnus Carlsen.
SmyslovFan wrote:
restinpeace wrote:
it depends on what era you're asking mate.
when you want a greatest player before 19th century there are players like guioco piano and paul morphy. simple explanation "they owned their respective counterparts during that time"
early 1900's there's mikhail tal and alekhine.
mid 1900's - the greatest that time was bobby fischer
late 1980's to late 90's - we've got kasparov
...
I hope that one helps.
Cheers
Morphy played in the Nineteenth Century. There was no player named "guioco piano".
Tal became famous in 1957-1958, won the title in 1960, and lost it in 1961, all before he turned 24. He then played competitively until his death in 1992. He probably knew how the pieces moved before 1950, but his career was in the second half of the 20th Century.
The current world champion is Viswanathan Anand, not Magnus Carlsen.
Yeah but we all know who the best player in the world is.
abiogenesis23 wrote:
mauriciolopezsr wrote:
All these Kasparov fans and defenders should read Kasparov's: My Best games where he clearly states that most of these amazing wins against Kramnick, Anad, Gelfand, Karpov, etc were all prepared lines with computer assistance; perhaps there were No engines with ultra human strength, but no doubt there powerfull engines at his disposal on the other hand the computers during Fischer era could barely make it to about 1800 rating!
You must have forgotten the entire first half of his career(more than half actually). That dreaded amnesia, I tell ya.
So what are you saying that He was all alone in the URSS?! come on give a break, Chess is a major piece of the Komis propaganda and they poured a tremendous amount of time, money and effort developing their talented players, ahving said this, don't get me wrong, No DOUBT that Kasparov is a tremendous player; however, he had the tools that enable him to "soar with the eagles"; while Fischer "soar with the eagles on its own power".
Big difference!!
Something someone else brought up earlier, that seems to have been overlooked, goes a long way towards coming to a solution here.
This thread doesn't ask who was the 'best' player in a on on one match, it asks who the 'greatest player of all time' was.
Greatness, in any sport, is determined by the career / long term record of the person or team being discussed.
A great sportsman / athlete is one who, not only wins the title, but defends it over a sustained period of time against multiple challengers and asserts his dominance over his chosen field. Fischer didn't do this.
If he had, he may well be the greatest of all time, but if you put their careers side by side, it can't be disupted that Kasparov had a much greater career.
Greatest Career = Greatest player
restinpeace wrote:
it depends on what era you're asking mate.
when you want a greatest player before 19th century there are players like guioco piano
Hilarious 
chess.com gold.
if you wait long enough, all kinds of nonsense will float by.
there's only one way to know. Cryogenics. unfortunately the technology came too late, so the answer has to be Roy Batty for that great mate-in-2 in Blade Runner.
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Looks like goldendog called it with immaculate timing.
Nizman is going to be flooded with anti-Fischer friend requests.
I am minding my language! But fisher fans respect garry kasparov or ama insult ur fish hero.. My appologies.. Thank u
Fischer was tougher than Jaws.
I want it on the record that, though I have made no secret off the fact that I don't much like Bobby Fischer, my views and opinions are independent of this guys lol.
i want it on record that i don't like mondays.
Sunofthemorninglight wrote:
i want it on record that i don't like mondays.
lol
Nizman wrote:
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Don't tell me he was resorting to English!
it depends on what era you're asking mate.
when you want a greatest player before 19th century there are players like guioco piano and paul morphy. simple explanation "they owned their respective counterparts during that time"
early 1900's there's mikhail tal and alekhine.
mid 1900's - the greatest that time was bobby fischer
late 1980's to late 90's - we've got kasparov
and the contemporary king of the throne today is no other than Magnus Carlsen.
there's no such thing as "Who is the greatest Chess player of all time" for the reason that there's a single guy who owned his own era and left a mark in chess history. Ratings wise it would be Kasparov (im not sure if carlsen already pass that rating), positioning wise it would be Morphy. Tactics and strategy wise... Fischer.
I hope that one helps.
Cheers