Who's Better?: Bobby Fischer, Garry Kasparov, or Magnus Carlsen - Chess Forums - Page 26

taseredbirdinstinct

Mar 14, 2023

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#501

lfPatriotGames wrote:

I'm sure someone else has also answered this correctly. The obvious answer is Carlsen. Because of the actual question, "who's" better. Not who "was" better. If the question was who was better in the 1990s, it was Kasparov. If the question was who was better in the 1960s, it was Fischer. Anyone can be better, depending on all sorts of factors and circumstances.

But the greatest of all time, Fischer.

Fischer wasn't the greatest during the 1960's, that was Smyslov, Petrosian, Keres, Spassky and Tal. Fischer and Karpov were the best during the 1970's.

lfPatriotGames

Mar 14, 2023

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#502

taseredbirdinstinct wrote:

lfPatriotGames wrote:

I'm sure someone else has also answered this correctly. The obvious answer is Carlsen. Because of the actual question, "who's" better. Not who "was" better. If the question was who was better in the 1990s, it was Kasparov. If the question was who was better in the 1960s, it was Fischer. Anyone can be better, depending on all sorts of factors and circumstances.

But the greatest of all time, Fischer.

Fischer wasn't the greatest during the 1960's, that was Smyslov, Petrosian, Keres, Spassky and Tal. Fischer and Karpov were the best during the 1970's.

OK, 70s. Same thing. The point isn't at which particular time, the point is it was in the past. The question was who is presently the best. So that would be Carlsen.

GingerGM9

Mar 15, 2023

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#503

Carlsen

Yama

Mar 15, 2023

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#504

fischer is trash skill issue

lfPatriotGames

Mar 16, 2023

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#505

diobrando79 wrote:

fischer is trash skill issue

Yes. He hasn't won a single game of chess in years. There is no question his current skill level isn't what it used to be. But back during his prime, he was by far the best.

hellodebake

Mar 16, 2023

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#506

Fischer has been dead since 2008!

hellodebake

Mar 16, 2023

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#507

lfPatriotGames wrote:

diobrando79 wrote:

fischer is trash skill issue

Yes. He hasn't won a single game of chess in years. There is no question his current skill level isn't what it used to be. But back during his prime, he was by far the best. Next to Aljechin

lfPatriotGames

Mar 16, 2023

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#508

hellodebake wrote:

Fischer has been dead since 2008!

That's what I heard. So it's weird the op would include him when comparing people to ask who is the best right now. Since Fischer is currently dead, I think we can safely rule him out as a contender.

hellodebake

Mar 16, 2023

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#509

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Mete_chess_11

Mar 18, 2023

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#510

they r all good in my opinion

Aniurumawkati

Mar 18, 2023

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#511

Magnus Carlsen is the best!

ssctk

Mar 19, 2023

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#512

Fischer is gone

Kasparov is no longer active

Magnus is the only option really 😂

We can't compare players from different eras because the context is very different and the challenges they face are also different.

trimalo

Mar 19, 2023

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#513

Bobby Fisher did the impossible, that is defeating the USSR armada, alone

taseredbirdinstinct

Mar 19, 2023

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#514

Why has no one mentioned Alekhine?

Finsharkotter

Mar 19, 2023

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#515

Magnus carlsen

Finsharkotter

Mar 19, 2023

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#516

lfPatriotGames wrote:

hellodebake wrote:

Fischer has been dead since 2008!

That's what I heard. So it's weird the op would include him when comparing people to ask who is the best right now. Since Fischer is currently dead, I think we can safely rule him out as a contender.

That's not the question, the question is: if they could play each other who do you think would when, and the answer is obviously magnus Carlsen

taseredbirdinstinct

Mar 19, 2023

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#517

SmyslovFan wrote:

bodysatellite wrote:

ok I want to apologize for my bad language about jews, since I was drunk and I really don't like what Kasparov did to chess. I shouldn't have tried to say that all jews are obnoxious like him. He did hurt chess though, and I think Karpov is the rightful owner of that first match championship.

Such language is prohibited by the site and people who create such posts, drunk or not, should be barred from posting on the site.

There's nothing wrong with criticising and mocking another race, as long as foul and dirty language wasn't used.

taseredbirdinstinct

Mar 19, 2023

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#518

mpaetz wrote:

Actually Kasparov isn't Jewish at all. His father was non-practicing Jewish but his Mather was Armenian. Jewish law says only people born to Jewish mothers or those who convert to Judaism, are "officially" Jews.

He was born in Azerbaijan, so he might be called an Azeri, but they only count Muslims as true Azeris and Garry was raised an Orthodox Christian.

As his parents both considered themselves Russians, he moved to Russia as a child, he is a Russian citizen and calls himself a Russian I guess we should admit he is Russian.

Actually, you are wrong. Kasparov's father was called Weinstein, "Wein" being Ashkenazi, along with "Stein".

Kasparov also had a Jewish mother who had the surname "Kasparian", which got turned into Kasparov by Russianizing it, Kasparian is a Jewish name that is a variant of Kaspar, or Kasper. Other variants of this Jewish surname include Casper, Caspar, Gasper, Gaspar, Gasparian, Casparian, Kasparyan, Casparyan and Gasparyan, which can be russianized.

The reason why Kasparov had his mother's surname and not his dad's was because his dad had died. Originally he was called Garry Weinstein.

taseredbirdinstinct

Mar 19, 2023

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#519

njzuraw13 wrote:

bodysatellite wrote:

Kasparov is a [] who cried like a baby complaining that Karpov was beating him in the WCC. He's a typical [], and should be put in a concentration camp for []. Is this not true? What a jerk, who split chess into FIDE and his little [] federation. He hurt chess badly for years.

Hey, how about you not be racist

Karpov actually gamed the system and deliberately toyed around with his selection of opponents in order to avoid losing against Kasparov.

taseredbirdinstinct

Mar 19, 2023

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#520

DrSpudnik wrote:

hellodebake wrote:

To your last paragraph, batgirl, i remember Fischer talking about his fear of the Russian mob, saying ''people just don't know how much they ( Russians ) would like to have me out of the way."

Every paranoid talks like this.

You don't have any evidence that Bobby Fischer was a paranoid schizophrenic, you are talking out of your butt.