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taots_11

Aug 9, 2011

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#121

BorgQueen wrote:

My typo. I don't mean that. The point I was making is that in the real world, strategic positioning (or strategically positioning) are not limited to weird rules like chess does. In that way, general (or "real world") strategic positioning is different to strategic positioning in chess.

The diagram emphasis the point -- the diagram shows strategic positioning in it's general understanding. White has strategically positioned his forces in preparation for attack. White to move WILL win because of this.

But the position is impossible to reach.

This emphasises how different chess strategy is to "real" strategy.

Thanks Borg.

But how come you said before that the movie independence day (i know it is just a movie but it could happen in the real world right?, so i consider it a real world) is like a chess. So this means it is posible to to achieved the position of the white pieces in the diagram, in preparation for attack, to win or to checkmate the black pieces, so as in the movie, the alien did achieved to blow their enemy. So i'm i right or wrong Borg?. I'll wait again Borg.

taots_11

Aug 10, 2011

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#122

BorgQueen wrote:

I'm not sure I am interpreting your question correctly.

I would never suggest that the movie I.D. is like chess. I think you drew this comparison from what Geoff Goldblum said about what the aliens were doing. "It's like in chess, first you strategically position your pieces and then strike".

In this regard, what the aliens were doing was similar to chess, but chess is nothing like what the aliens were doing! I bet that confuses you :-P

But the aliens in their ships don't have to follow rules like "bishops can only stay on their own colour" and pawns can only move two squares if it is their first move" and such.

They just positioned their craft over the areas that would have the biggest effect of wiping out human resistance. When they were ready, they fired.

End of strategy.

You cannot apply this kind of strategy to chess.

Thanks Borg. But i still have a 2 questions to you.

1.So, G.G compared I.D to chess, because the aliens can strategically positioning their crafts right?. So, you mean Borg, that we cannot strategically positioning our pieces in chess, because as you said in your post 185, and in your diagram, that it is impossible to reach the strategic position of white's pieces to capture the black's king to win the game?.

2.If it is impossible to reach the strategic position of white's pieces in your diagram Borg, how come Garry Kasparov made a book entitled ''how life imitate chess?, i mean did G.K's book is wrong?. I'll wait again Borg.

taots_11

Aug 11, 2011

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#123

BorgQueen wrote:

You can strategically position pieces in chess. Of course. In the diagram you tell me how you can position both your bishops on the SAME diagonal.

What you can't do in chess is place your pieces exactly where you want them at will. RE-read what I have already written. I will not be repeating myself again.

If it were possible to simply position your pieces in chess in such a way as to force a mating attack, everyone would do it.

There is a balance in chess... black, if playing right, will not allow such a position to occur even if it were possible for white to do it.

And how in hell does GK's book relate to a composed diagram I have posted??????

Are you making up questions just for the sake of making up questions?? What has "how life imitates chess" got to do with the impossibility to reach a perfect strategic position??

Thanks Borg.

1.Oh!, sorry Borg, my typo, i just misunderstood your explanation, i thought i cannot strategically position my pieces. So, can you give me an example in the diagram how can you strategically position your pieces?. I'll wait again Borg.

2.Because i misunderstood your explanation, i thought the book of G.K it is wrong to a life to imitate chess.

taots_11

Aug 11, 2011

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#124

BorgQueen wrote:

Neither a, b or c work for me.

The position has to have an underlying essence of strategy. That is what "strategic" means.

"Strategy based position" works. "Strategic position" works.

Why are you trying so hard to change it?

Hi Borg. I forgot to ask you this before.

I think i know now why it took me a week to know what is the meaning of the word ''underlying'' in the sentence above, because i don't know if the word ''underlying'' is a verb, noun, adjective, or adverb. So, my question is ''is the word underlying is a verb, noun, adjective, or adverb?. my guess is, the word ''underlying'' is a verb. So, i'm i right or wrong Borg. I'll wait again Borg.

taots_11

Aug 11, 2011

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#125

BorgQueen wrote:

1. In the diagram?? White's pieces are already strategically positioned for the kill.

2. Not having read the book, I can hardly say much.

Thanks Borg.

1.Oh!, i see, ok Borg. But i still have a 1 last question to you.

I know now, why G.G compared the I.D to the chess. But the only slight difference is ''in I.D, the objective of aliens is to capture the earth, and in chess, the white's pieces or black's pieces objective is to capture their enemy's king''. So, my question is ''i'm i right or wrong Borg. I'll wait again Borg.

2.Oh!, ok, i thought you already read the book Borg.

taots_11

Aug 11, 2011

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#126

BorgQueen wrote:

Neither a, b or c work for me.

The position has to have an underlying essence of strategy. That is what "strategic" means.

"Strategy based position" works. "Strategic position" works.

Why are you trying so hard to change it?

Hi Borg. I forgot to ask you this.

I know now why it took me a week to know what is the meaning of the word ''underlying'' in the sentence above, because i don't know if the word ''underlying'' is a verb, a noun, an adjective, or an adverb. My guess is, i think is it is a verb. So, my question is ''i'm i right or wrong Borg?. I'll wait again Borg.

taots_11

Aug 12, 2011

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#127

BorgQueen wrote:

taots_11 wrote:

I know now, why G.G compared the I.D to the chess. But the only slight difference is ''in I.D, the objective of aliens is to capture the earth, and in chess, the white's pieces or black's pieces objective is to capture their enemy's king''. So, my question is ''i'm i right or wrong Borg. I'll wait again Borg.

No.

In ID, the goal was to make pop-tarts and confuse kids and in chess the goal is to scare your opponent into resigning.

/sarcasm.

Of course you are right. How is this not obvious to you?

taots_11 wrote:

I know now why it took me a week to know what is the meaning of the word ''underlying'' in the sentence above, because i don't know if the word ''underlying'' is a verb, a noun, an adjective, or an adverb. My guess is, i think is it is a verb. So, my question is ''i'm i right or wrong Borg?. I'll wait again Borg.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/underlying

Adjective.

How could it take you a week to get that from the dictionary?

Seriously, I think you are just asking questions to bump your own topic. I think you are just trying to get the post count up so it can resemble "if you know".

Am I right Kuggie? :-P

Thanks Borg. But i still have a last 1 question to you in my number 2 answer.

1.I just want to know if i'm right Borg.

2.Yes, how that it is not obvious to you Borg?. Nah!, seriously, you already forgot before Borg?, how this word gave me a headaches everyday, because i dont know it's meaning?.

Oh! i see now, so, the position has to have a fundamental or basic essence of strategy huh Borg?.I'll wait again Borg.

Come on now Borg..., you know that i cannot resemble anymore like my thread ''if you know''. It's so Lol that the thread was just ruined by a hired rookie suspicious clown huh?.

taots_11

Aug 12, 2011

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#128

BorgQueen wrote:

In chess, strategic positioning has a slightly different meaning to me than general strategic position, which you have been trying to define for years.

In the classic sense, strategic positioning is positioning your assets in such a way as to aide in the strategic plan. In other words you get to choose exactly where you place your forces. In chess, however, there are too many obstacles to place things exactly where you want them.

Classic strategic positioning of forces, applied to a chessboard:

However, in chess, this is just not possible. You have to counter your opponents threats, obey chess rules like keeping the bishops on their diagonals and not moving pawns to exactly where you want them, but obey the movement rules.

So you can't just position your pieces in line with your strategy of "attack and win the king".

You didn't strategically position your queen on c2. It would have worked on other squares as well... it just happened to be in the right place at the right time as a result of retreating from your tactical blow of capturing on g6.

Every half decent player has a tactical aspect and a positional aspect. Of course you played positional moves. A move can be both strategic AND tactical -- playing a tactic out to achieve not material, but positional advantage can be achieved.

Bd3 was a positional move... as was your eventual e4.

In chess, strategic play IS positional play.

Hi Borg. Since i already know what is the meaning of ''strategic position'', i have a question to you, in your post above.

1.Ok, you said in your post above that ''in the classic sense, strategic positioning is positioning your assets in such a way as to AIDE in the strategic plan right?''. So, my question is ''is it correct to say in the classic sense, strategic positioning is positioning your assets in such a way as to ACCOMPLISH (instead of using the word aide) in the strategic plan''?. I'll wait again Borg.

taots_11

Aug 13, 2011

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#129

BorgQueen wrote:

Yeah, seeems ok to me to use "accomplish" instead of "aide" in that definition.

Thanks Borg. I have a question to you about the movie ''the Gladiator'' and the movie ''Troy''.

1.In Gladiator, i just heard to Russell Crowe, when he ordered his men to ''hold the line'', while they attacking their enemy. So my question is ''what is the meaning of the words ''hold the line''?.

2.In Troy, they made a huge Knight to enter the castle of Troy. So, my question is ''when they used the huge Knight, to enter to the castle of Troy, what do you called this maneuver?, a strategy or tactics''?.I'll wait again Borg.

taots_11

Aug 14, 2011

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#130

BorgQueen wrote:

You could message me... or drop notes like you already have ;-)

Nothing to forgive Kuggie... you didn't offend me. I am just disappointed that you posted the way you did... and by the looks of it... still are.

Even the topic title here is just looking to start it up again... and what is the first thing you do here? Attack LorgNazgul.

Now who is posting atosively??

This thread will probably get locked as well since it is nothing but more trolling.

Hi Borg.

I forgot to ask you before, if i can request to the website, to unlock my thread ''if you know''. I just wonder probably if the website unlock it, it brings all my good friends like you, to get together again like before you know?.I'll wait again Borg.

taots_11

Aug 17, 2011

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#131

BorgQueen wrote:

Yeah, seeems ok to me to use "accomplish" instead of "aide" in that definition.

What's happen to you Borg?, you take a vacation?.

taots_11

Aug 17, 2011

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#132

BorgQueen wrote:

Still here :-)

Oh!, i thought you take a vacation Borg, because i been waiting for you to answer my questions in my posts 199 and 200. I'll wait again Borg.:-)

taots_11

Aug 17, 2011

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#133

akintews wrote:

Chess.com might unlock it if you restore all your deleted comments

Lol!!, no problem, because i will just put the words ''what is strategically position'' to all the comments that i deleted before Akintews.

taots_11

Aug 18, 2011

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#134

BorgQueen wrote:

I did answer those questions... seems like chess.com nuked my reply though.

Hold the line: To maintain the existing position or state of affairs.

The trojan horse is a tactical blow.

Unlock the topic? Restoring the topic won't necessarily restore any friendships, but you can always ask.

Thanks Borg.

But i have 2 more questions to you Borg.

1.So, what is the strategy of the Trojan then Borg?.

2.it's ok Borg. As long the web will unlock my thread, and i just gonna imagine that my thread have never got lock and the friendships too. So, how can i convince the web then Borg?. I'll wait again Borg.

taots_11

Aug 18, 2011

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#135

BorgQueen wrote:

Here's a term that will confound you!

Tactical strategy.

lol

1. I just said it was tactical. Not strategic. If you like, the strategy is to infiltrate.

2. Beats me. You may never convince them to unlock it.

Thanks Borg. But i still have a 4 questions to you.

1.Yeah, i know that you said was tactical Borg, that's why i asking you what is the strategy of Trojan?, because i know too that tactics are different from strategy.

2.Anyway, you said that the strategy of Trojan is to infiltrate right Borg?. If your answer is yes, so,is this means that the Trojan weaknesses is because they are so believed in their gods?, and even the big horse they thought is their god?.

3.So, if your answer is yes, is this means that you have to know what the weaknesses of your opponents in playing chess, so that, you can infiltrate thier defences too?.

4.I thought you gave me a support, when you said in your post 209, that i can always ask Borg?. But it's ok to me Borg, even if they don't want to unlocked it, because sometimes i go to my thread and reading it back again, and sometimes i smile by myself too. I'll wait again Borg.

taots_11

Aug 19, 2011

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#136

BorgQueen wrote:

taots_11 wrote:

Thanks Borg. But i still have a 4 questions to you.

1.Yeah, i know that you said was tactical Borg, that's why i asking you what is the strategy of Trojan?, because i know too that tactics are different from strategy.

2.Anyway, you said that the strategy of Trojan is to infiltrate right Borg?. If your answer is yes, so,is this means that the Trojan weaknesses is because they are so believed in their gods?, and even the big horse they thought is their god?.

3.So, if your answer is yes, is this means that you have to know what the weaknesses of your opponents in playing chess, so that, you can penetrate thier defences too?.

4.I thought you gave me a support, when you said in your post 209, that i can always ask Borg?. But it's ok to me Borg, even if they don't want to unlocked it, because sometimes i go to my thread and reading it back again, and sometimes i smile by myself too. I'll wait again Borg.

1. If you know it is tactical and not strategic, then your questions just doesn't make sense.

2. My answer "to infiltrate" was a forced response because you wanted an answer to the illogical question, re: 1.

3. No. You may not know ANYTHING about your chess opponent's weaknesses. You find weaknesses on the board in the game, as you play it.

4. Not a question. Post 209 doesn't have anything to do with what you are talking about.

Thanks Borg.

1.ok, let me clarify this Borg. I ask you before what kind of maneuver the Trojan did?, right Borg?, and your answer was tactical right?, and i agree with your answer. I know too, that the technical of strategy is tactics right Borg?. So, since i already know the technical of Trojan, i ask you now what is the strategy of the Trojan?. I'll wait again to your response Borg.

2.Oh, i see. Ok, no problem Borg.

3.Oh, i see. Ok, Borg.

4.Oh, I see. Ok, Borg.

taots_11

Aug 20, 2011

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#137

BorgQueen wrote:

the technical of strategy is tactics

? I do not understand this.

i already know the technical of Trojan

You better explain it to me then.

Thanks Borg.

1.Ok, you said that the tactics of the enemy of the Trojan is to Build a big horse right Borg?. Now, how about the strategy of the enemy of the Trojan?, i mean what is the strategy of the enemy of the Trojan?.

taots_11

Aug 20, 2011

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#138

BorgQueen wrote:

I did answer those questions... seems like chess.com nuked my reply though.

Hold the line: To maintain the existing position or state of affairs.

The trojan horse is a tactical blow.

Unlock the topic? Restoring the topic won't necessarily restore any friendships, but you can always ask.

Thanks Borg.

I'm sorry if i make you mad Borg.

1.You said above, the Trojan horse is a tactical blow right Borg?. Maybe you think that the Trojan is the one who made the big horse Borg?. No, the one who made the big horse is the enemy of the Trojan, that's why the Trojan lose the war. So, because i agree with you, that the big horse is a tactics of the enemy of the Trojan, i asking you now, how about the strategy of the enemy of the Trojan, i mean what is the strategy of the enemy of the Trojan?.

.

taots_11

Aug 20, 2011

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#139

BorgQueen wrote:

taots_11 wrote:

Thanks Borg.

I'm sorry if i make you mad Borg.

1.You said above, the Trojan horse is a tactical blow right Borg?. Maybe you think that the Trojan is the one who made the big horse Borg?. No, the one who made the big horse is the enemy of the Trojan, that's why the Trojan lose the war. So, because i agree with you, that the big horse is a tactics of the enemy of the Trojan, i asking you now, how about the strategy of the enemy of the Trojan, i mean what is the strategy of the enemy of the Trojan?

Then the answer is I don't know. You obviously know more about it than I do, so you tell me. You know what strategy is, you know what tactics is, you know the history, so you tell me.

Thanks Borg.

1.if you don't know the answer Borg?, i think i have to stop asking you.

taots_11

Aug 20, 2011

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#140

BorgQueen wrote:

taots_11 wrote:

Thanks Borg.

I'm sorry if i make you mad Borg.

1.You said above, the Trojan horse is a tactical blow right Borg?. Maybe you think that the Trojan is the one who made the big horse Borg?. No, the one who made the big horse is the enemy of the Trojan, that's why the Trojan lose the war. So, because i agree with you, that the big horse is a tactics of the enemy of the Trojan, i asking you now, how about the strategy of the enemy of the Trojan, i mean what is the strategy of the enemy of the Trojan?

Then the answer is I don't know. You obviously know more about it than I do, so you tell me. You know what strategy is, you know what tactics is, you know the history, so you tell me.

Hi Borg. I have a question to you about the dictionary that i bought before.

I just what to know if the definition of the word '' strategic'' in this dictionary is correct Borg.

Ok, the definition is this.

''Strategic adj = of or to do with strategy, esp. to gain an advantage''. So, is this dictionary is correct or wrong Borg?. I'll wait again Borg.