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Krestez

Ok so I just played a guy and we reached a position in which he had absolutely 0 winning chances. I had a bishop and 2 pawns, whereas he had a knight and pawn. I was very low on time (around 2 mins) because of my poor internet connection (disconnected around 10 times during the 30|0 game). Believe it or not, he wouldn't accept a draw! I mean, what a douchebag! He played on and waited until I blundered (I had few secs left before my last move) Please look at the game and tell me your opinion.I even had a win with h5 on move 43 but I didn't want to take it because of time issues. I offered him a draw around move 45 or so. I might be wrong but this seems very bad fair-play to me.



TheGrobe

Does there have to be just one?

Krestez
TheGrobe wrote:

Does there have to be just one?

Just tell me my judgment is wrong if that's what you think and don't make fun of me.

EscherehcsE

All's fair in love, war, and internet chess...

FancyKnight

Play with an increment.

Krestez
FancyKnight wrote:

Play with an increment.

Good advice, but what I really wanted to ask with this post is how would you people react. Would you have accepted the draw in a similar situation?

Krestez
Billion_Tactics_Boy wrote:

I definetly would not of accepted the draw because somebody might be just saying they have bad internet just to scam me into inflating their rating.

You know you're alerted when your opponent disconnects? It appears in the chat box (X has disconnected, X has reconnected etc.) And I was in a winning position, at worst draw. I do accept draws in similar situations (except in blitz/bullet, where time plays a much bigger role)

DrFrank124c

I believe he was playing properly. The clock is a piece and it is good chess to use it as such. I have played chess games in which I saw that my opponent was running out of time and even though I did not have a good position I deliberately checked him so so he would have to use up his time responding to the check. This is how we play chess on the internet. If you don't like it use an increment or play online chess or take up tiddlywinks.

Truffaut

You say "he had absolutely 0 winning chances" yet he won. So yes, he was right to keep playing. It's not enough to have a won game, you still have to win it.

Krestez

Am I mentally ill or is this site full of douchebags?

Truffaut

By the way, at what move are you winning?

fhwee

@Krestez,

All you had to do was to sacrifice your bishop for his pawn, then it becomes an automatic draw.Bishop remain along the white diagonal at a2 to prevent passed pawn from queening.Your bishop should not be near your king as it is always possible for a knight to execute a fork.

Good Luck in your future games.

Krestez
Truffaut wrote:

By the way, at what move are you winning?

43...h5 wins

Truffaut
Krestez wrote:

Am I mentally ill or is this site full of douchebags?

At least one is true, maybe both, but I can't speak to your mental soundness without more information.

Krestez
fhwee wrote:

@Krestez,

All you had to do was to sacrifice your bishop for his pawn, then it becomes an automatic draw.Bishop remain along the white diagonal at a2 to prevent passed pawn from queening.Your bishop should not be near your king as it is always possible for a knight to execute a fork.

Good Luck in your future games.

I know that but he was doing a good job in protecting the pawn from my bishop. I couldn't simply sacrifice my bishop it until I couldn't attack the pawn. Thanks for your comment.

jeffreyj_2000

Krest,

What's your beef.  Looks to me you had a well fought game.  Be glad for that.  Try and learn from your mistakes, and become a better player.  Isn't that the end goal.  Really, if you had slaughtered him easily, you would have learned nothing, and if he destroyed you, again nothing learned.  I would thank your opponent for a good game and challenge him to a rematch.

CapAnson

Well for one thing 43... h5 doesn't look like a win to me after 44. b7 Kc7 45.Nf6.. secondly if you have a big time advantage over your opponent part of the game is using that against them.. whether it's OTB or online.  How is your internet connection his problem?

Krestez
jeffreyj_2000 wrote:

Krest,

What's your beef.  Looks to me you had a well fought game.  Be glad for that.  Try and learn from your mistakes, and become a better player.  Isn't that the end goal.  Really, if you had slaughtered him easily, you would have learned nothing, and if he destroyed you, again nothing learned.  I would thank your opponent for a good game and challenge him to a rematch.

My opponent played indeed a good game and I don't whine over a meaningless lost game on the internet. It's not the fact that I lost that bugs me but my opponent's behaviour. That's all.

Krestez
CapAnson wrote:

Well for one thing 43... h5 doesn't look like a win to me after 44. b7 Kc7 45.Nf6.. secondly if you have a big time advantage over your opponent part of the game is using that against them.. whether it's OTB or online.  How is your internet connection his problem?

It's not his fault that I have poor internet connection but if you're in a worse position you should accept a draw happily. And 43...h5 wins. I even checked with an engine.

Krestez
Snowyqueen wrote:

Your opponent is under no obligation to bail you out just because you lost time earlier - whether it was your fault or not. If you want the draw, you should keep yourself enough time to enforce it. 

You say you had a win but "didn't take it" - you're saying you saw it, but somehow passed it up because you didn't feel entitled to the win? That's your own fault, not your opponent's. Your claim here is so silly - if you want the draw, force the win and then offer the draw once the win is obvious. If you've promoted a pawn he's a lot more likely to take the draw, no? So you're really asking us to believe that you played intentionally sub-par moves to avoid winning? 

What do you expect of your opponent? That he's going to read your mind? He's more likely to think "This guy is terrible, I bet he blows the ending and lets me win."

It's entirely permissible to play out a poor position when your opponent is in time trouble, even without your opponent making blunders (and failing to play a forced win, whatever you claim your motivation is, is a blunder).

Thanks for your comment. But I've got to say I don't agree with you. It's true that my opponent is under no obligation of accepting the draw, but it seems common sense to do it. It's not just better for me, but for him also. Why risk a draw for a win on time that probably is not going to happen (it's true I screwed up in the endgame but it seems right to accept the draw to me)?