why are grandmaster picky who they teach

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AndyClifton

Welcome to the modern world (view). Wink

TetsuoShima

Spiritbro77 wrote:

You mentioned the St. Louis chess club. You DO know they have a kids lecture series on Sundays right? By your logic they must all be pedophiles on Sunday.

There a myriad of reasons why a GM might want to teach children. Haven't developed bad habits, have the chance at becoming GM's themselves, etc. That you would accuse a teacher of being a pedophile based on such specious logic, shows a twisted and pathetic world view....

Or u just dont have to prepare when teaching small kids

AndyClifton

And you can fit more of them into a room.

TetsuoShima

Lol

bean_Fischer

I think if you tell him your age and rating, he will give you some advice, or ask him for advice.

Maybe he wants to save your money and time. Because he has a reputation to live up.

Returnofcookiemonster

I guess like somebody said around here, there are a billion grandmasters since i already figured it out. There alot of prospective gms. Lev alburt and gregory kaidonov theres also sam shankland aswell but im leaning toward mr lev albert or sam shankland.

bean_Fischer wrote:

I think if you tell him your age and rating, he will give you some advice, or ask him for advice.

Maybe he wants to save your money and time. Because he has a reputation to live up.

SmyslovFan
Aquarii wrote:

my coach asked to talk to my parents first before teaching me, he said he wanted to let my parents know who i was talking to on skype

Sounds like a good coach!

Derekjj

A grandmaster should not refuse to teach anyone, unless he is looking for a lawsuit.

WalangAlam

Try to enter Julliard without getting an audition!

DrCheckevertim
chessph wrote:

A grandmaster should not refuse to teach anyone, unless he is looking for a lawsuit.

Spiritbro77

Try telling that to a martial arts grand master... he must teach you or else... that will go over big. *snicker*

Adi777

I regret for not accepting gary kasparov and fisher for noot accepting them as my students...they were devasted..pooor chaps

FrenchTutor

This whole thread is absolutely ridiculous.  Grandmasters want students who are dedicated to improvement and who will take chess seriously - they don't want a student who will waste both their own time and that of their teacher.  It's not all about money; they want to feel like there's some progress or purpose behind their teaching and that their students are committed and will listen to their teacher.  When you're one of the best players in the world you deserve to be picky about choosing students (more so as one of the far rarer English-speaking American GMs in the world).  If you want to work with the best you have to have aspirations to be the best you can be or both of you are wasting time.  There's no discrimination in a GM (or any coach!) not wanting to teach a student who doesn't trust them or refuses to give them basic information.  Private tutors can choose whoever they want.

TetsuoShima

i wouldnt care as a GM if my student could score good but weather i like or dislike him..

what is the great thing about teaching someone you dont like just because he is good, that is actually for me the same as just doing it for the money and in no way better...

but ofc because im not a GM i probably shouldnt take about those things

 

and yes i know good people like everyone

Returnofcookiemonster

Dont mean to burst your bubble bud, butttt it is all about money how do you think grandmasters survive

FrenchTutor wrote:

This whole thread is absolutely ridiculous.  Grandmasters want students who are dedicated to improvement and who will take chess seriously - they don't want a student who will waste both their own time and that of their teacher.  It's not all about money; they want to feel like there's some progress or purpose behind their teaching and that their students are committed and will listen to their teacher.  When you're one of the best players in the world you deserve to be picky about choosing students (more so as one of the far rarer English-speaking American GMs in the world).  If you want to work with the best you have to have aspirations to be the best you can be or both of you are wasting time.  There's no discrimination in a GM (or any coach!) not wanting to teach a student who doesn't trust them or refuses to give them basic information.  Private tutors can choose whoever they want.

klfay1
chessph wrote:

A grandmaster should not refuse to teach anyone, unless he is looking for a lawsuit.

You're nuts.  A GM who decides to teach is an independent contractor and can choose whom he wants to have as a student.  I have a degree in music.  If someone walked up to me and said they wanted trumpet lessons, the first thing I would ask is how much time and effort they're willing to put into it.  If the answer is "not much" I'm not going to teach them.

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WalangAlam

Not everyone can enter into any educational institution they want. They have to first pass the necessary entrance exams with a required GPA. I guess that goes the same with any GM, although they might differ from each other when it comes to standards. The fact that you are pursuing a particular GM among the 1500 in the world that says something about the particular GM. It also means there are other students that want his instruction. He then has the luxury of choosing who among the interested propects he can mentor under his wings. As time is limited and so is his ability to teach and for how long. Don't be upset about it. Coaching is an inter personal thing, the coach sometimes spents long hours just to prepare his student for something. Some students succeed, others quit, some fail. The measure of a coach sometimes is how successful his students have been.

SocialPanda

Incredible to know that there are 1417 GMs, It´s like there were only 1300 some weeks ago Surprised

SocialPanda
FrenchTutor wrote:

This whole thread is absolutely ridiculous.  Grandmasters want students who are dedicated to improvement and who will take chess seriously - they don't want a student who will waste both their own time and that of their teacher.  It's not all about money; they want to feel like there's some progress or purpose behind their teaching and that their students are committed and will listen to their teacher.  When you're one of the best players in the world you deserve to be picky about choosing students (more so as one of the far rarer English-speaking American GMs in the world).  If you want to work with the best you have to have aspirations to be the best you can be or both of you are wasting time.  There's no discrimination in a GM (or any coach!) not wanting to teach a student who doesn't trust them or refuses to give them basic information.  Private tutors can choose whoever they want.

Do you like to teach french to older persons even when they don´t progress that fast? or it gets to be frustrating?

waffllemaster
returnofxpchesser wrote:

Dont mean to burst your bubble bud, butttt it is all about money how do you think grandmasters survive

And yet... you were refused.

lol.