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fluffytitbabbler
CooloutAC wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
I’ll just tell you this coolout since I finally looked at your games. Don’t play any blitz. Play daily or rapid. Blitz will only hurt you at this level.

You have to slow down enough to avoid blunders.

I've heard that advice alot.  I don't agree with it.  Sure one might progress slower.  But if they like playing blitz they will still progress.   I hope you are not one of those guys that think flagging opponents is poor sportsmanship lol.  Because 5 min blitz to me is the most sporting game mode of all chess.

Well then you'll definitely like Aman's Building Habits, he plays 5-0 blitz, also recommends 10 mins rapid. I'm trying to play like him, 5-0

Ubik42
Notimeforchess I am going to look that up, when I coach kids I always struggle with how to play against them, maybe he can give me some ideas. Like, I don’t want to just crush them, but if I play badly then they won’t learn anything from me either. It’s a tough line to walk.
fluffytitbabbler
Ubik42 wrote:
Notimeforchess I am going to look that up, when I coach kids I always struggle with how to play against them, maybe he can give me some ideas. Like, I don’t want to just crush them, but if I play badly then they won’t learn anything from me either. It’s a tough line to walk.

Do that, Aman is fantastic, sounds like you'll see him play exactly what you need

Ubik42
Coolout is just not a good way at your level maybe if you get a coach and he tells you the same thing but charges you $50 then it will be more believable
Rook_Handler
CooloutAC wrote:
n0time4chess wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
I’ll just tell you this coolout since I finally looked at your games. Don’t play any blitz. Play daily or rapid. Blitz will only hurt you at this level.

You have to slow down enough to avoid blunders.

I've heard that advice alot.  I don't agree with it.  Sure one might progress slower.  But if they like playing blitz they will still progress.   I hope you are not one of those guys that think flagging opponents is poor sportsmanship lol.  Because 5 min blitz to me is the most sporting game mode of all chess.

Well then you'll definitely like Aman's Building Habits, he plays 5-0 blitz, also recommends 10 mins rapid. I'm trying to play like him, 5-0

5-0 to me is the best mode.  best for the fans and players as its the most sporting.  most balanced imo.  not too little, not too much.

 

 

At the higher levels of chess it is impossible to make the plans strategies, and combinations that supply the beauty of chess in a five minute game, although playing blitz chess is helpful for improving chess instincts. However, at your level, chess is nothing but "I'll move my knight here and attack his bishop!!! Then I get to take it next yayayay!"

fluffytitbabbler
Ubik42 wrote:
Coolout is just not a good way at your level maybe if you get a coach and he tells you the same thing but charges you $50 then it will be more believable

If someone like that format for whatever reason, then go for it. Of course, you can't learn the same as if playing long time formats, but you can practise and learn other skills, and then when you feel like, start playing longer games. Or not, chess can be enjoyed whatever way you like

fluffytitbabbler
Rook_Handler wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
n0time4chess wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
I’ll just tell you this coolout since I finally looked at your games. Don’t play any blitz. Play daily or rapid. Blitz will only hurt you at this level.

You have to slow down enough to avoid blunders.

I've heard that advice alot.  I don't agree with it.  Sure one might progress slower.  But if they like playing blitz they will still progress.   I hope you are not one of those guys that think flagging opponents is poor sportsmanship lol.  Because 5 min blitz to me is the most sporting game mode of all chess.

Well then you'll definitely like Aman's Building Habits, he plays 5-0 blitz, also recommends 10 mins rapid. I'm trying to play like him, 5-0

5-0 to me is the best mode.  best for the fans and players as its the most sporting.  most balanced imo.  not too little, not too much.

 

 

At the higher levels of chess it is impossible to make the plans strategies, and combinations that supply the beauty of chess in a five minute game, although playing blitz chess is helpful for improving chess instincts. However, at your level, chess is nothing but "I'll move my knight here and attack his bishop!!! Then I get to take it next yayayay!"

You're right of course, but what does it matter, chess for most is not a question of life and death,. I play 5-0 as a total beginner and I'm improving. Sooner or later I will want to learn more, so I'll start playing longer games. There's time and place for everything😃

Rook_Handler

Unfollowing. I can't stand this thread anymore.

fluffytitbabbler
CooloutAC wrote:
Rook_Handler wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
n0time4chess wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
I’ll just tell you this coolout since I finally looked at your games. Don’t play any blitz. Play daily or rapid. Blitz will only hurt you at this level.

You have to slow down enough to avoid blunders.

I've heard that advice alot.  I don't agree with it.  Sure one might progress slower.  But if they like playing blitz they will still progress.   I hope you are not one of those guys that think flagging opponents is poor sportsmanship lol.  Because 5 min blitz to me is the most sporting game mode of all chess.

Well then you'll definitely like Aman's Building Habits, he plays 5-0 blitz, also recommends 10 mins rapid. I'm trying to play like him, 5-0

5-0 to me is the best mode.  best for the fans and players as its the most sporting.  most balanced imo.  not too little, not too much.

 

 

At the higher levels of chess it is impossible to make the plans strategies, and combinations that supply the beauty of chess in a five minute game, although playing blitz chess is helpful for improving chess instincts. However, at your level, chess is nothing but "I'll move my knight here and attack his bishop!!! Then I get to take it next yayayay!"

Now this is totally contradictory.  you say a beginner should not play blitz.   Then you go on to say at the "higher levels" of chess its not enough time for plan strategies or enjoy the beauty of the game?      I think maybe you can't think fast enough and don't enjoy losing on time.    You do realize 5 min blitz is the most popular around the world right, and the most respected imo.   If it wasn't for 5-0 blitz I wouldn't even be playing chess...  in fact I wouldn't even consider chess a sport otherwise.   I disagree with everything you said.

No, what he said is that playing at higher level (meaning making the best possible moves at every position, requires more than 5 minutes to make plans and strategies. You're tired and ready to snap at everyone boy, telling you, you need a break😁

fluffytitbabbler
CooloutAC wrote:
n0time4chess wrote:
Rook_Handler wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
n0time4chess wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
I’ll just tell you this coolout since I finally looked at your games. Don’t play any blitz. Play daily or rapid. Blitz will only hurt you at this level.

You have to slow down enough to avoid blunders.

I've heard that advice alot.  I don't agree with it.  Sure one might progress slower.  But if they like playing blitz they will still progress.   I hope you are not one of those guys that think flagging opponents is poor sportsmanship lol.  Because 5 min blitz to me is the most sporting game mode of all chess.

Well then you'll definitely like Aman's Building Habits, he plays 5-0 blitz, also recommends 10 mins rapid. I'm trying to play like him, 5-0

5-0 to me is the best mode.  best for the fans and players as its the most sporting.  most balanced imo.  not too little, not too much.

 

 

At the higher levels of chess it is impossible to make the plans strategies, and combinations that supply the beauty of chess in a five minute game, although playing blitz chess is helpful for improving chess instincts. However, at your level, chess is nothing but "I'll move my knight here and attack his bishop!!! Then I get to take it next yayayay!"

You're right of course, but what does it matter, chess for most is not a question of life and death,. I play 5-0 as a total beginner and I'm improving. Sooner or later I will want to learn more, so I'll start playing longer games. There's time and place for everything😃

He is absolutely not right.  Its a ludicrous statement.   "At the higher levels of chess there is not enough time plan strategy or enjoy the beauty of the game"   The contradicts saying only high level people should be playing it!    To me you people are simply making excuses for not being able to think fast and don't like losing on time.   5-0 blitz is what makes chess a sport for me,  but I guess now we just hit on why many chess players don't even consider their own game a sport...

You seriously are a troll😂

fluffytitbabbler

Well, then play blitz. Just so you know and realise, all the best blitz players in the world were first best in classical long time control chess. There's a limit to how good you can get playing solely blitz. 

And time control in long games is as much of a serious issue as is in blitz

fluffytitbabbler
CooloutAC wrote:
n0time4chess wrote:

Well, then play blitz. Just so you know and realise, all the best blitz players in the world were first best in classical long time control chess. There's a limit to how good you can get playing solely blitz. 

And time control in long games is as much of a serious issue as is in blitz

Again,  a ludicrous statement.  Lets take the most popular guy on twich Hikaru as an example.  He is rank #2 in blitz and bullet.   But what 5th or 7th in classical?   And maybe if they all start out in classical,   its because thats what they taught to do in the chess community.   Sure you can learn faster and better.  Might as well consider it a practice match.   But its a totally false statement to say you can't get better at all playing blitz.    And its wrong to tell people that.  Especially wrong to say there is no strategizing or beauty.  wtf... what scumbag. Again,  no wonder many people don't consider chess a sport.   To me that dude is coaching kids to be poor sports on time controls.   Another thing prevalent in this community.  Its not even as fun for the fans to watch.   You also can't consider something a sport that has no fanbase.

Of course, you can get better at blitz by playing blitz. However, even number 1 in the world got this good at blitz because he first got good at classical. But whatever, I'm finally sick of your crap. I recommend you seek professional help. And I don't mean in chess😂

 

Ubik42
You can have a 2 hour time limit and still be in time pressure. Even if you are a GM.

Your understanding of chess will be extremely shallow if you start with blitz and do nothing else. All you will learn from endless blitz games is one move threats and moving faster than your opponent so you win even if your position is a train wreck and this absolutely will limit you as a chess player.
Ubik42
You have never played a classical game, right?

It’s a whole different animal to me. I play blitz between glances at the news or whatever. In otb classical I am in a zone for 3-5 hours on one game. I can usually feel my heart pounding through the whole thing.

Blitz to me is a practice for classical, mainly to hone tactical instincts.

You don’t play the same way because the same thing that might be a fatal endgame weakness in classical can sometimes be completely ignored in blitz, so strategically it doesn’t really help me much.
Ubik42
I think you forget that on that other thread we agree on the sporting element.

Blitz is fine but you will be better learning slow chess first then moving to blitz.

If you are learning how to drive you don’t start by going to a race track at 200 mph. You start at very slow speed limits and learn hour to brake and turn and signal and parallel park and all that.
Ubik42
You will put a ceiling on your progress. You will be ok as long as it’s the 200 mile race. But when your opponents are even and the win condition changes to “and after you race around the track. parallel park your vehicle”, and you won’t know how, but your classical trained opponent will.
krazeechess

is it jsut me or is there like 4 empty pages

krazeechess

oh nvm it got changed nopw

Ubik42
Just between you and me I think it’s 15 empty pages
athlblue

Yo coolout got muted @cooloutAc