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Why are there no websites willing to give out free information?
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Nov 4, 2013
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#83
What are you talking about ? There are a lot of free pdf files out there dude... Just read them yourself!
Nov 5, 2013
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#84
Hundreds of free chess books at Google Books and Internet Archive. These are legal. Illegal pirated PDFs of more recent chess book are easily found, too, although I prefer to avoid these.
Nov 5, 2013
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#86
Ziryab wrote:
Hundreds of free chess books at Google Books and Internet Archive. These are legal. Illegal pirated PDFs of more recent chess book are easily found, too, although I prefer to avoid these.
The books to avoid are those downloaded using Bit Torrent. There are hundreds of recent chess books that can easily be downloaded, but of course we do not do this.
Nov 5, 2013
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#87
DrFrank124c wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
Hundreds of free chess books at Google Books and Internet Archive. These are legal. Illegal pirated PDFs of more recent chess book are easily found, too, although I prefer to avoid these.
The books to avoid are those downloaded using Bit Torrent. There are hundreds of recent chess books that can easily be downloaded, but of course we do not do this.
I've never trusted BitTorrent for two reasons:
1) copyright
2) increased potential for viruses, trojans, and other malware
On the other hand, the books available via Internet Archive and Google Books are old enough that copyright has expired. They do not offer the latest history, but there is plenty of useful historic works. The alleged 77 games of Gioachino Greco that one can find at chessgames.com, in commercial databases, and elsewhere is a mere fraction of the man's studies. Books published in 1656, 1819, and 1900 available via Google Books expand these to at least 168 games.
Nov 5, 2013
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#88
DrFrank124c wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
Hundreds of free chess books at Google Books and Internet Archive. These are legal. Illegal pirated PDFs of more recent chess book are easily found, too, although I prefer to avoid these.
The books to avoid are those downloaded using Bit Torrent. There are hundreds of recent chess books that can easily be downloaded, but of course we do not do this.
Exactly : if you have any respect for professional chess players and book authors, this is not something you want to do. These guys are putting a lot of work in their books, are usually not paid very well, and have families to support.
Chess books are not expensive when you consider how much quality information you find inside. It's also usually possible to find second-hand copies at very reasonable prices.
Besides, owning 500 chess books won't help your chess : you actually need to read and work with them.
Nov 5, 2013
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#89
Back to free chess stuff. Bouquet, Gull and Stockfish are all in the top six at the computer chess championship TCEC. All are freeware. So 3 of the top six engines going into the finals are free to download. Install all three in to Arena and you've got a pretty powerful analysis tool. All for free.
You can buy the older Fritz 12 for under 10 dollars on Amazon. Add those free engines and one or more of the free databases mentioned in this thread and you've got a very good set up for very little money.
hicetnunc wrote:
Exactly : if you have any respect for professional chess players and book authors, this is not something you want to do. These guys are putting a lot of work in their books, are usually not paid very well, and have families to support.
Chess books are not expensive when you consider how much quality information you find inside. It's also usually possible to find second-hand copies at very reasonable prices.
Besides, owning 500 chess books won't help your chess : you actually need to read and work with them.
Second hand books don't help the authors or their families any more than illegal copies.
Nov 5, 2013
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#91
True, but still if I know I can sell my book in 2 years at 50% of the tag price, maybe I'm more okay to buy it today in the first place.
Fair point.
Nov 5, 2013
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#93
hicetnunc wrote:
True, but still if I know I can sell my book in 2 years at 50% of the tag price, maybe I'm more okay to buy it today in the first place.
well said. And maybe having a real book promotes taking it more seriously than getting it for free...unless its a real find, like someone has just put out a pile of chess books free for the taking in front of their house. That's how I got hardcover How to Open a Chess Game, Evans/Gligoric/Larsen/Keres. Now if only I would read it. But its too advanced for me :(
The author get's the royalties from initial sale of their book.
Untrue to say 2nd hand books are as bad as illegal pdf copies whereby the amount of nothingness they get via internet-downloads can be exponential harming potential sales.
Ziryab wrote:
Hundreds of free chess books at Google Books and Internet Archive. These are legal. Illegal pirated PDFs of more recent chess book are easily found, too, although I prefer to avoid these.
Just remotely connected with Guy Fawkes Day, anyway I am very pleased ;)
Remember, remember to use TOR if you are uncertain ;)
Nov 5, 2013
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#96
netzach wrote:
The author get's the royalties from initial sale of their book.
Untrue to say 2nd hand books are as bad as illegal pdf copies whereby the amount of nothingness they get via internet-downloads can be exponential harming potential sales.
the poster didn't say 2nd hand books are 'as bad as illegal pdf'. He said buying them doesn't help the author any more than illegal copies do.
He ment that sale of second hand books same as distribution of pirated online copies are laying beyond scope of royalities. Difference is that amount of digital copies tends to outweight phisical ones. What did you wanted to point sonny?
Nov 5, 2013
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#98
qinns wrote:
He ment that sale of second hand books same as distribution of pirated online copies are laying beyond scope of royalities. Difference is that amount of digital copies tends to outweight phisical ones. What did you wanted to point sonny?
same as what you just wrote.
Nov 5, 2013
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#99
Ziryab wrote:
Hundreds of free chess books at Google Books and Internet Archive.
By the way, to everyone on chess.com who doesn't live in the USA, and who has tried to access chess books on google books unsuccessfully after reading posts from people who say a chess book is available on googlebooks...it's not you. It's google books. The licensing that is available to USA residents is just not available to those outside the US. :(
Somebodysson wrote:
netzach wrote:
The author get's the royalties from initial sale of their book.
Untrue to say 2nd hand books are as bad as illegal pdf copies whereby the amount of nothingness they get via internet-downloads can be exponential harming potential sales.
the poster didn't say 2nd hand books are 'as bad as illegal pdf'. He said buying them doesn't help the author any more than illegal copies do.
hmm ?
Here is what was said:
You do understand nobody 'buys' illegal pdf books??
(They just grab a link and download them:)
Scottrf wrote:
hicetnunc wrote:
Exactly : if you have any respect for professional chess players and book authors, this is not something you want to do. These guys are putting a lot of work in their books, are usually not paid very well, and have families to support.
Chess books are not expensive when you consider how much quality information you find inside. It's also usually possible to find second-hand copies at very reasonable prices.
Besides, owning 500 chess books won't help your chess : you actually need to read and work with them.
Second hand books don't help the authors or their families any more than illegal copies.
How can that fish survive out of water ???