Why can't I beat players like Hikaru, Nepo, Caruana, Ding, Wesley, Anish, Magnus, MVL, etc?

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If I play my best game, and they're a little off, why exactly would I not be able to outplay them? I'm not saying that I'm a better chess player than any of them, but I know how to play and have had some really great games in my time.

When people play a 2750(ish)+ player, do you think it's fear that keeps them from winning? Or is it all due to simply being outplayed?

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cos ur not good enough like blud ur not even 2000
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Probably because they’re all grandmasters?
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If I play my best game, and they're a little off, why exactly would I not be able to outplay them? I'm not saying that I'm a better chess player than any of them, but I know how to play and have had some really great games in my time.

When people play a 2750(ish)+ player, do you think it's fear that keeps them from winning? Or is it all due to simply being outplayed?

Can you beat a heavyweight champion in boxing if he gives only 95% of his effort instead of 100%?

Or can you be better at physics than a Nobel prize winner if he doesn't show all of his knowledge?

Or perhaps can you beat Lebron James in 1 on 1 basketball if he doesn't give his all, but still enough to be better than 70% of NBA players?

The answer is no (most likely, unless you are a top professional in some of those fields), to all of these questions.

There are levels in chess, just like in other fields and top people are more or less untouchable for the regular people.

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nklristic wrote:
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If I play my best game, and they're a little off, why exactly would I not be able to outplay them? I'm not saying that I'm a better chess player than any of them, but I know how to play and have had some really great games in my time.

When people play a 2750(ish)+ player, do you think it's fear that keeps them from winning? Or is it all due to simply being outplayed?

Can you beat a heavyweight champion in boxing if he gives only 95% of his effort instead of 100%?

Or can you be better at physics than a Nobel prize winner if he doesn't show all of his knowledge?

Or perhaps can you beat Lebron James in 1 on 1 basketball if he doesn't give his all, but still enough to be better than 70% of NBA players?

The answer is no (most likely, unless you are a top professional in some of those fields), to all of these questions.

There are levels in chess, just like in other fields and top people are more or less untouchable for the regular people.

this post reminds me of a story about Larry Bird, the Boston Celtics great and hall of fame NBA player.

one night before a game, he told a teammate that he was going to score 30 points tonight only shooting with his left hand. And this is against other world class players in the NBA!

watch the Carlsen vs. Nepo game that ended in a 50 move draw in a Queen vs Rook endgame.

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nklristic wrote:
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If I play my best game, and they're a little off, why exactly would I not be able to outplay them? I'm not saying that I'm a better chess player than any of them, but I know how to play and have had some really great games in my time.

When people play a 2750(ish)+ player, do you think it's fear that keeps them from winning? Or is it all due to simply being outplayed?

Can you beat a heavyweight champion in boxing if he gives only 95% of his effort instead of 100%?

Or can you be better at physics than a Nobel prize winner if he doesn't show all of his knowledge?

Or perhaps can you beat Lebron James in 1 on 1 basketball if he doesn't give his all, but still enough to be better than 70% of NBA players?

The answer is no (most likely, unless you are a top professional in some of those fields), to all of these questions.

There are levels in chess, just like in other fields and top people are more or less untouchable for the regular people.

this post reminds me of a story about Larry Bird, the Boston Celtics great and hall of fame NBA player.

one night before a game, he told a teammate that he was going to score 30 points tonight only shooting with his left hand. And this is against other world class players in the NBA!

watch the Carlsen vs. Nepo game that ended in a 50 move draw in a Queen vs Rook endgame.

There is a story about the guy called Brian Scalabrine, I think, who played as a bench player in NBA, and when he finished his career, in his 40s he started playing against regular college or amateur players. He would beat them and say something like:"I am closer to Lebron than you are to me." happy.png

Of course our egos might be a little bruised, but top people in chess are generally out of our reach. It is what it is.

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you are barely in the 4 digits

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They just better
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Blake_Bentley wrote:

you are barely in the 4 digits

Bro, I just created the account... I've been thinking about trying to mimic one of Hikaru's speedruns.

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CBTVET wrote:
cos ur not good enough like blud ur not even 2000

I just created this account... I was thinking about doing a Naka-style speedrun.

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CBTVET wrote:
cos ur not good enough like blud ur not even 2000

I just created this account... I was thinking about doing a Naka-style speedrun.

Against TOS unless you have permission. Smurfing, alt account w/out permission, etc...

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CBTVET wrote:
cos ur not good enough like blud ur not even 2000

ur not even 1000

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Dont think nightmares!! They are 2200 players that their parents or coaches keep them on elo+ lies. Until you reach 1800 and dont have an engine gun you must avoid them. Stockfish gun that a neiman clan member uses is 2800 but the cannon engine of their parents it is 4800

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darlihysa wrote:

Dont think nightmares!! They are 2200 players that their parents or coaches keep them on elo+ lies. Until you reach 1800 and dont have an engine gun you must avoid them. Stockfish gun that a neiman clan member uses is 2800 but the cannon engine of their parents it is 4800

Coherent English please.

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What's your real strength then big boy? If you are a high 2600s or 2700/2800, then you have a chance to beat them if they are a little off. Below that you don't have a chance.

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A 2600+ player will simply outplay you. You would lose the game even if you don't blunder or make significant mistakes. Inaccuracies in the critical moments are enough to make you lose the game.

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why can you not beat mike tyson in boxing

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Main problem is that you will never face them on the board.

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Jenium wrote:

Main problem is that you will never face them on the board.

How do you know that? You know nothing about that guy. Might be a grandmaster.

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Even asking such a question shows that the questioner has little understanding of chess .