Why Can't I Uncastle a Castle ?

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The_Ghostess_Lola

Hey !....I have a great idea !....let's call it the Lola Mate. What's the difference ?....it's just as unrelated as Smother Mate, right ?

AmbroseWinters

Why can't you "uncastle"? The answer is simple:

Castling is not the movement of a single piece.

You have given the example of moving Nf3, then reversing it with Ng1. This is an example of a single piece (the knight) being moved, then moving the knight again to a legal position. In this case, you are making two moves with one piece (1. Nf3...2. Ng1). With castling, however, you are moving the king and the rook in one move, or the opposite (two pieces with one move), which is why the notation for castling is different than other moves (O-O or O-O-O). With "uncastling", you are moving both pieces which have already been moved. The rules state (in either edition, it doesn't matter) that once the king/rook has been moved, castling (again) is illegal. To "uncastle", you would have to preform the action of "castling" again, which is forbidden by the FIDE rules.

 

Tl;dr: "Uncastling" is not allowed because it would involve castling again, moving pieces that have already been moved.

 

The_Ghostess_Lola
FirebirdA wrote:

the same way once you shit and it Doesn't go back inside. :)

Maybe not, but feces has been known to make contact with the propeller.

....back at cha !

Tja_05

The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

No. You're wrong ! Once a pawn reaches rank 8 ?....IT MORPHS (u dork). So, a promoted piece is NO LONGER A PAWN & never will it be again. 

Inquiry: Your planet ?

Oh really? How come when it gets captured you only lose the material equivalent of a pawn? Answer to your inquiry: Planet Earth. Back at cha!

loubalch

Why can't you "uncastle" a castle? For the same reason you can't put Cheez Whiz back in a can.

The_Ghostess_Lola

Ambrosia....& How Much I Feel,

The question isn't 'why not'. We all know that we legally can't.

The question is why did chess adopt this arbitrary move, & so therefore, why can't an arbitrary move be coupled with its equal & opp arbitrary unmove ?

BECAUSE ARBITRARY & HISTORICAL PRECEDENCE SAYS SO....THAT'S WHY !!

What the pho' ?....what kinda rational thinking is going on here ?....isn't this game based on logic & reason ?

What were our developing founders thinking ?....they glitched out !

Now. I beg of all of you. QUIT DEFENDING THOSE dayz gone by ID-10-T's !

The_Ghostess_Lola

Fine TSC....back at me. But u owe me an apology for temporarily flatlining in ur #668.

Tja_05

The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

Fine TSC....back at me. But u owe me an apology for temporarily flatlining in ur #668.

That was an accident. And it was #667, not #668

Tja_05

The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

Ambrosia....& How Much I Feel,

The question isn't 'why not'. We all know that we legally can't.

The question is why did chess adopt this arbitrary move, & so therefore, why can't an arbitrary move be coupled with its equal & opp arbitrary unmove ?

BECAUSE ARBITRARY & HISTORICAL PRECEDENCE SAYS SO....THAT'S WHY !!

What the pho' ?....what kinda rational thinking is going on here ?....isn't this game based on logic & reason ?

What were our developing founders thinking ?....they glitched out !

Now. I beg of all of you. QUIT DEFENDING THOSE dayz gone by ID-10-T's !

Wow... just... wow. I don't get it.

Tja_05

Well, I can't put it much better.

Tja_05

power_2_the_people wrote:

Yeah, well like I'm always saying, because it's true,  Lola is my inspiration. But I don't think Lola was the inspiration for the rules of chess. I may be mistaken, if she's a ghostess or a Goddess or something, I don't know...   we'll see in the future. 

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   Dear Lola, I hope all is well for you

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            wink.png

 

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YoloMode007

me not understand

 

Tja_05

me neither

The_Ghostess_Lola

Okay. Me will teach you.

One good reason to Uncastle is, as the game moves toward the endgame (King gets more important), uncastling would place ur King better to handle the late stage. This may uncouple your rooks (should you still have two rooks) tho' this may hinder the now uncastled rook in the corner. So a tradeoff.

The idea is to enrich the game !...would it be of good use alot ? Probably not too much, but it would be my teensie little contribution.

What's gonna happen as we move into the future of chess is top play will become staid (as it's quickly becoming), & as BF was right, the game will desperately need some kinda deepening injection.

Have you noticed that draws are way-way more common than ever before & full points are not being realized as much as they used to be ? It's only gonna get worse everyone. Trust me on this one.

Tja_05

*Sigh*

The_Ghostess_Lola

I say either allow Uncastling or eradicate Castling altogether !!

Tja_05

Have you not checked the other forum?

Tja_05

The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

I say either allow Uncastling or eradicate Castling altogether !!

*Sigh* well, chess will be ruined. Either way, chess will be ruined.

ThrillerFan
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

I say either allow Uncastling or eradicate Castling altogether !!

 

I say allow the undoing of Trump Care or eradicate Trump Care altogether !!

 

Oh, wait a minute, two more said no last night!  It's already eradicated!   YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

The_Ghostess_Lola
TremaniSunChild wrote:

Have you not checked the other forum?

....don't know & don't care.