people, please get jobs, boy friends, girlfriends, hobbies, whatever. but please stop wasting everyone's time with inane troll threads. does this crap build your self-esteem or something?
If you're gonna go off & say that ?....then just zip it.
We're all trying to get to the bottom of something here.
I'm only finding that Korchnoi wanted to be he could castle with his rook under attack; Game 21 of the 1974 candidates final.
I'm really not sure I see it as a similar situation.
sorry.
Lets at least be reasonable about it. someone would have to bring it up in a tourney, no?
without THAT then unfortunately its but one Ghostly lola that thinks the rules are wrong.
and I want to point out; lola. even if ALL of us felt like this was a big problem with the rules- you would still have to convince a chessplayer, FIDE, or someone quite influential.
chess.com people aren't, (most of us at least) influential.
Again, for about the umpteenth time:
If I move 1. Nc3 and then 2. Nb1. Is this piece move illegal ?
I'm sadly sorry, but I'm not discerning the difference between the above piece move and castling. Both are separate & distinct and unique to the game at hand, yet one is legal and other other is assumed illegal.
Yet, nowhere are each the pieces being played deemed a violating move.
Help someone....help ?
It's very simple - what's not listed as legal is illegal.
I'm only finding that Korchnoi wanted to be he could castle with his rook under attack; Game 21 of the 1974 candidates final.
I'm really not sure I see it as a similar situation.
sorry.
My point was that even top players don't know the rules of castling.
I'm not saying the rules are outright wrong. I'm saying they're open to interpretation. There's lotsa wayz, in my mind, Article 3.8a could be seen.
I'm only finding that Korchnoi wanted to be he could castle with his rook under attack; Game 21 of the 1974 candidates final.
I'm really not sure I see it as a similar situation.
sorry.
My point was that even top players don't know the rules of castling.
Ok.
Point taken. but some people here are more than a player. Martin for example in an arbiter. if you looked around at what the regulars say; you would find a few more.
you've got to convince SOMEBODY lola.
or it never gets brought up.
and... mmm.. I'm not sure (well tbh I don't think I agree with you) but I don't play FIDE chess anyways.
thats my really big point.
That's my whole point....none of the individual piece moves are illegal !
I'm only finding that Korchnoi wanted to be he could castle with his rook under attack; Game 21 of the 1974 candidates final.
I'm really not sure I see it as a similar situation.
sorry.
My point was that even top players don't know the rules of castling.
You are not very good at logic:
I'm not saying the rules are outright wrong. I'm saying they're open to interpretation.
No they are not, did you read recent 2014 rules?
if you did uncastle, could you then later castle on the other wing?
No 'cuz u already castled once.
Castling is the only move where you are allowed to move two pieces. Uncastling moves two pieces a second time- illegal
Case closed
people, please get jobs, boy friends, girlfriends, hobbies, whatever. but please stop wasting everyone's time with inane troll threads. does this crap build your self-esteem or something?
You are right of course... but I find some odd pleasure in talking to trolls.
"Why can't my pieces float above all the other pieces and squash them? There's no rule that says they can't! I want my pieces to fly..." We play by the rules of what we can do. Not by what is written that we can not do.
"Why can't my pieces float above all the other pieces and squash them? There's no rule that says they can't! I want my pieces to fly..." We play by the rules of what we can do. Not by what is written that we can not do.
what my point was.
if you did uncastle, could you then later castle on the other wing?
No 'cuz u already castled once.
but if you uncastle, it's kind of like you never castled at all.
Not true. The rule paraphrase that each move is separate & independent. Tho' they don't hafta be unique, Article 3.8a is explicit about the rules on castling.
They're very good about defining castling. So no argument there. They're just lousy, IMHO, about reversing the castle privilege.
"Why can't my pieces float above all the other pieces and squash them? There's no rule that says they can't! I want my pieces to fly..." We play by the rules of what we can do. Not by what is written that we can not do.
what my point was.
New redaction of rules states explicitely that what is not listed as legal is illegal. So even if there was a loophole before it is closed now.
Again, for about the umpteenth time:
If I move 1. Nc3 and then 2. Nb1. Is this piece move illegal ?
I'm sadly sorry, but I'm not discerning the difference between the above piece move and castling. Both are separate & distinct and unique to the game at hand, yet one is legal and other other is assumed illegal.
Yet nowhere are each the pieces being played deemed as a violating move. IOW's, I didn't move my queen like a horse or something like that.
Help someone....help ?