Why do Americans like Bobby Fischer?

To the OP, and on point. My belief is that many Americans simply want to associate themselves with a winner-as if the association (I'm American-he's an American!) somehow makes them "winners" also.

I've seen it in many aspects of life. Everyone's newest "favorite" is the latest American that won....anything.

This thought process is reinforced by many dumbasses seen on TV. Some in America are quick to say, "America is the greatest country in the world!"......this phrase is even uttered by some that have never been to another country. How     dumb    is     that? 

It's also evidenced by the popularity of "reality" shows in the U.S. It's hard to understand their popularity-especially when those on the shows are so dumb. Studies have shown that people watch them to feel better about themselves. This is also partly true about Fisher. People in the U.S. love that an American can be champion at anything, but many here also seem to love seeing one brought down from heights, no matter what the cause.

 Botvinnik was close to Stalin---Stalin telegraphed him after big tournament wins. Botvinnik really wanted this championship and it was his for the asking---all he had to do was arrainge a match. This he did and this was announced to the world. Do you think after all this Stalin would have given the ok to murder Alekhine ? If he really wanted Alekhine dead he would have waited until the match was over and then do the dirty deed. Now a championship tournament had to take place---a charade which hurt the prestige of the Soviet Union. A tournament which put Botvinnik's title under a cloud.

Stalins mother did not raise a dummy.

I take as an argument Abraham Lincoln- as civil a man as ever lived- but murdered, nonetheless.

Let's hope the world stays safe enough so that we can all keep hating America, 1917-18 and 1942-45 notwithstanding.    

Barack Obama is about to give his state of the union address...he's got lots of friends, shaking all those peoples hands...definitely doesn't play chess.

Well spaghetti, nice to know what you think about all Americans, and this was about Bobby Fischer, lolol What a countries leaders do and the mistakes they make does not reflect on its people only the people in power, unfortunatley. The way you think I guess you hate all Germans, for what Hitler did?

Yoikes...how I loathe dualism.

Damn' liberals.  Damn' conservatives.

So very, very childish.

No wonder spaghettio hates the world.

 Who are you bro, my comments are never snide.. unless directed towards Naka.. I have never insulted fischer. Just made this post about him.

I like fischer, just not Naka. I just wondering why u guys like him, if a Serbian was good but insulted serbs all day everyday and laugh if a terrorist attack us, no serb would like him, regardless of what he did (winning tourneys).

I dont know.. I mean he HATED jewish people, and Americans are "jews" to him.. I think he seriously enjoyed 9/11.

He is a phsycopath.

However I am sure people can take his life and chess apart and enjoy the chess part only, like myself.

America is a large, heterogeneous, powerful nation, in which freedom of speech, debate, and satire are a way of life publically and privately.  In smaller cultures it seems, they don't take it well when one of their own is outspoken against the culture and it is taken as an act of betrayal with cries of vengeance and bloodlust.  If one of our leaders or celebrities says something, there is always someone to find humor and stupidity in it and call the person out in some form or another.  We take things seriously not when words are spoken but actions are taken, such as when our cruise ships are torpedoed, our harbors are bombed, our buildings are planed, and we can make money off someone else.  But little shits saying words is not gonna set off our tempers in the manner that it does for smaller cultures whose identity depends on fierce unquestioning narrow-minded inbred loyalty.  

I may be 100% wrong, but I definitely did not contradict myself.  But where I come from, that is okay, I will defend your right to differ in your opinion no matter how wrong you are.  

this thread is populated and run by morons.

work away

In Japan, I'd be at the bottom of the class instead of the bottom half. 

 Yeah. At the last minute, Stalin probably said "Doh! Botvinnik doesnt stand a chance against the greatest combinational player of all time" and ordered the hit.

Look, it was well established that the Russians did whatever they could to deny Reschevsky a shot during the 1953 candidates tournament. This was admitted by Bronstein. Sop when you know they will fix games, and you know the KGB did in fact kill lots of people, then why wouldnt they kill to fix a championship? its just like algebra, really, things equal to themselves are equal to each other.

The KGB didn't kill Bobby Fischer...unless they used psychological warfare***

*** the words in italics are said with Peter Griffin's voice sarcastically like in that episode of Family Guy when he says in a higher-pitched voice "...and you're over there";  I can't remember which episode it is, might be the one when he fights the voltron-esque robot of paraplegics composed of Joe's many paraplegic friends, when Peter didn't want them patronizing his restaurant, but I am not sure, can't find it on youtube.

being who you are is very american,  those of us who would never fly a flag of another country on there property , would also not talk bad of bobby fischer cmon,there america ali, evil kenevil , elvis, brando, jhon macnroe  it was a diffrent time and place in the world, russia and china worse than north korea , thats how it was.

serve the servants

yes.

but i promise that in the end...  i will win