Why do i suck at blitz?

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RoobieRoo

dear friends i have played for the most part correspondence chess for the last five years and have reached a level of 2000 here at chess.com yet when i play blitz chess I am getting beat up by 1200 rated players, why should that be the case?  why can i play correspondence chess to a fairly average level but completely suck at blitz chess?  It doesn't make any sense.

k0spe

I'm guessing one reason your correspondence rating is so much higher than your blitz it because you probably work hard, take your time, and think through the position. Most people just glance at the board, check a few lines and then play. I know that my correspondence is higher than my blitz because I like to think through things and take my time, but it's hard to do that with blitz. I'm not sure if your like me, but that's my thought

VLaurenT

These are vastly different pursuits.

RoobieRoo

Thankyou for your prompt replies.  Yes I do take my time, in fact I hardly ever have more than three games going at one time specifically for that reason.  It seems I may be a better student of chess than a player to be honest.  The logical question now and I am sure it has been asked countless times is how can I transfer my knowledge gained while playing correspondence chess into practical play?  What I mean is how do you approach blitz, do you play solidly waiting for your opponent to make a mistake or do you play gambits and trappy lines?

fbhjr
k0spe wrote:

Most people just glance at the board, check a few lines and then play. 

This is how I play correspondence chess far too often.  Also I have an excess of concurrent games.  I think you have the proper approach, at least to CC, robbie.  It seems to have worked well for you!  

nebunulpecal

Don't worry about blitz.

RoobieRoo

@chess_material, it doesn't matter how many tactical exercises i practice i can never get over 1800 tactically.  Here and on chess tempo i think i hover around the 1600-1800 level for tactics and no matter how many i do i cannot ever get better than that.  Perhaps i simply have no talent for chess and should take up something else, which is sad because i really like chess.

RoobieRoo

@nebunulpecal, i dont worry but i should be able to at least reach 1800, instead of a measly 1300, its just bewildering to be honest, so many games i lose after having strong, even winning positions.  The learning experience is too painful to be honest, I dont like losing, who does, but to lose so badly is more than a man can take.

RoobieRoo

@chess_material, thankyou fo the encouragement, really, its awesome, ill see what i can do, Lazlo you say.

TheGreatOogieBoogie

I'm sure it's been said but if you lose to 1200s at blitz then you play blitz inferior to class D players.  It's ludicrous to presume that all these 1200s are somehow "lucky" against you, but the first step towards improvement is knowing where we stand and so I'm glad you asked. 

Now, onto the technically useful part:

 

Blitz is all about one's tactical vision and instincts.  Attacking chess and quick calculations reign supreme in blitz, so the best advice I can give is start doing tactical puzzles.  Do puzzles from beginner through intermediate difficulty to start with.  Also, thinking process exercises help since you'll hone it down to the instinctual level.  GMs play high quality games in blitz despite the time controls, and find out the reason for this. 

bastiaan
k0spe schreef:

I'm guessing one reason your correspondence rating is so much higher than your blitz it because you probably work hard, take your time, and think through the position. Most people just glance at the board, check a few lines and then play. I know that my correspondence is higher than my blitz because I like to think through things and take my time, but it's hard to do that with blitz. I'm not sure if your like me, but that's my thought

Partly I agree with this. I as well have a big rating gap between cc and lc (about 400), but I'm not always taking my time with correspondence and my tactics are about 200 higher than my cc. My guess it's half taking your time/ half that it becomes a different type of game because of this. Aggressive play and creating chaos over the board seems more like live chess to me, calculating and patience seem more like cc.

[edit: I think pattern recognition would be more blitz, trying to find new things more cc]

TheGreatOogieBoogie
chess_material wrote:

Blitz is a type of game which requires a lot of fast calculation, a very good intuition, great tactical strength and of course a fast hand(JK).

You need to work on your tactics and calculation. I see your tactics rating is 1614.

My recommendation for you is to study " Chess: 5333+1 positions, combinations and games", by Laszlo Polgar. Complete the book, and you will take a giant leap in tactics. Your intuition will improve and above all you will be comfortable even in positions with wild tactical variations. Do follow up with other books on tactics.

P.S - I am a dealer in chess e-books. Mail me at chess_material@yahoo.com if you need to buy any chess book.

I'll agree with Chess Material and also don't forget to suppliment the tactic training with online drills such as Chess.com and chesstempo.  Some good tactic software exists like CT-ART 4.0 and Renko's Course Tactics series. 

qrayons

I feel like the online ratings are really inflated. Compare a game between two 1200s in online chess to a game between two 1200s in blitz. You’ll see more blunders in the online game even though they have more time to think. 

Bouglerie

Someone I knew(Class A player) said that's he don't like the fast time so much, but really enjoy the time control of 2/12. In his personnal reason, it gives extra time once the middlegame is reached after blazing through the opening phase, and prevent some stupid loss due on time in the endgame.

Now the problem is finding someone willing to accept this time control...

motarlan

Maybe you blow at blitz.

waffllemaster

Quite simply, you're probably slow at identifying the threats of your opponent's move, so you lose to basic tactics or on time.

motarlan

Now, a serious answer:

1. You don't suck at blitz, this is your level. It's just fine. 1200 or 2000 are just numbers, they have no meaning.

2. Probably you need to improve your tactics, and here tactic trainer is the best resource, much better than any chess book. Why? Because it will serve you the problems appropriate to your level. You have one tactics trainer here, there are several others on the internet, all are OK.

RoobieRoo

thank you so much for everyone's encouragement I practised tactics trainer and immediately drooped 200 points on it, I was 1600 now im 1400's, is this a bad hairdo day or what!

VLaurenT
robbie_1969 wrote:

Thankyou for your prompt replies.  Yes I do take my time, in fact I hardly ever have more than three games going at one time specifically for that reason.  It seems I may be a better student of chess than a player to be honest.  The logical question now and I am sure it has been asked countless times is how can I transfer my knowledge gained while playing correspondence chess into practical play?  What I mean is how do you approach blitz, do you play solidly waiting for your opponent to make a mistake or do you play gambits and trappy lines?

This is not so much about general strategy than automatisms. Blitz is about quickly knowing what is important, which comes with experience. You need to know your openings well, and have a keen eye for tactics. Otherwise, you probably better spend time developing these aspects of your play with longer games.

VLaurenT
robbie_1969 wrote:

@chess_material, it doesn't matter how many tactical exercises i practice i can never get over 1800 tactically.  Here and on chess tempo i think i hover around the 1600-1800 level for tactics and no matter how many i do i cannot ever get better than that.  Perhaps i simply have no talent for chess and should take up something else, which is sad because i really like chess.

1800 on ChessTempo is very good, above average club player