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Twill718

Why do members on chess.com lose games on purpose? Why do people have 400 and 200 ratings? What is the benefit of doing this?

winterbubbles

idklol

Twill718

Its crazy...When you look at their recent games all you see is them losing on time. 

aimiekamikoza
Do they lose on purpose really? Proof 🤔
Habanababananero

Firstly, a rating of 200 or 400 does not mean someone is losing on purpose. It just means they are not very good at chess YET and they have got a lot to learn.

Secondly, yes, some people seem to lose on purpose. Maybe they want to play weaker players because they are sore losers who want to feel superior and forgive themselves for losing when they do it on purpose on their way down in rating, but feel so bad they dont’t want to risk losing while actually trying? Don’t know, but that is my theory.

Jalex13
Are you making this post to put them down? Or to put yourself up? No,they don’t lose on purpose (the vast majority), they simply know how the pieces move and haven’t been guided in strategy.
Wits-end

I’m so good, I don’t need to try to lose. It just comes naturally to me. 

AussieMatey

Twill all work out in the end.

plux

what you are referring is called sandbagging. it's against the chess.com terms of service, and is a form of rating manipulation.

 

However, having said that, your assumption that players with super-low ratings are doing it on purpose is not correct. This might occur in very rare instances, but the vast majority of the time these are real players.

 

llama51
plux wrote:

what you are referring is called sandbagging. it's against the chess.com terms of service, and is a form of rating manipulation.

 

However, having said that, your assumption that players with super-low ratings are doing it on purpose is not correct. This might occur in very rare instances, but the vast majority of the time these are real players.

 

Eh... vast majority? Maybe. I'm not so sure though.

plux
llama51 wrote:
plux wrote:

what you are referring is called sandbagging. it's against the chess.com terms of service, and is a form of rating manipulation.

 

However, having said that, your assumption that players with super-low ratings are doing it on purpose is not correct. This might occur in very rare instances, but the vast majority of the time these are real players.

 

Eh... vast majority? Maybe. I'm not so sure though.

 

Truly I don't want to sound rude here, but have you ever watched young children who have just learned the rules play a game of chess? Literally blunder after blunder after blunder etc etc.

one of the magical things about chess is that it's played on the same board with the same pieces across a huge spectrum of ability levels, from super GM's to children who have accomplished something substantial if they play a complete game without breaking any rules. happy.png

plux

for example the observation about many losses coming from running out of time -- at these ability levels players may not even realize that a move they are trying to make is not legal, etc. (they may not realize they are in check, etc - well there are countless reasons why this can be the case) and their clock runs out as they don't understand fully what's going on.

 

tldr (too late) - you have to start somewhere. and that starting point is really pretty awful in the big picture. but you have to start somewhere.

llama51
plux wrote:
llama51 wrote:
plux wrote:

what you are referring is called sandbagging. it's against the chess.com terms of service, and is a form of rating manipulation.

 

However, having said that, your assumption that players with super-low ratings are doing it on purpose is not correct. This might occur in very rare instances, but the vast majority of the time these are real players.

 

Eh... vast majority? Maybe. I'm not so sure though.

 

Truly I don't want to sound rude here, but have you ever watched young children who have just learned the rules play a game of chess? Literally blunder after blunder after blunder etc etc.

one of the magical things about chess is that it's played on the same board with the same pieces across a huge spectrum of ability levels, from super GM's to children who have accomplished something substantial if they play a complete game without breaking any rules.

Yeah, I've taught kids to play. They're shockingly bad. Most experienced players can't imagine how bad they are until they've done coaching.

Still... there are plenty of idiots who lose on purpose... like I said you might be right but I'm not sure.

Lord_V-6

yes Some people lose on purpose!

I had a match with a guy, he was winning, but after some moves he resigned, idk why he did that but its cool, at least i get some ratings boost wink.png,  anyway Have a nice day guys!!

Lord_V-6
playonlinesecretly1 wrote:

I win on purpose. You got to show all the best of your ability to beat me.

 

i can beat you , no offence, but on my way,  i play 10 minutes you have have only15 seconds, i am slightly confident i will win xd, LOL

Twill718

I feel like if you look at games history, all you see is games lost on time. Then yes, i feel you are doing it on purpose. Am I wrong?

llama51
Twill718 wrote:

I feel like if you look at games history, all you see is games lost on time. Then yes, i feel you are doing it on purpose. Am I wrong?

That's not something I'd check for. I'd look at whether they were losing a lot of games from completely winning positions.

And in the games they were losing, were they losing because of randomly giving pieces away.

ollyssb
ever thought that people 400/200 are actually not good enough?
winterbubbles
Twill718 wrote:

I feel like if you look at games history, all you see is games lost on time. Then yes, i feel you are doing it on purpose. Am I wrong?

hmmm may i ask which member?