Why do people offer to draw instead of resigning?
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DragonoftheEclipse
Jan 7, 2024
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#1
I have been thinking about this for a few weeks because several times when the tides of the game is turning in my favor, and it is fairly clear I will win, my opponent will offer to draw. I don’t understand if there is some unspoken rule about drawing I don’t know about, or if it’s just something people learned to do. I could understand if it was earlier in the game and my opponent unexpectedly had to leave and they messaged me, but this hasn’t happened. Does anyone know why my opponents are offering to draw?
Jan 7, 2024
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#2
I believe chess is played mostly by narcissists. So thats why they don't resign.
NO MATTER how far ahead you are, it is not a win.
A GAME HAS NEVER BEEN WON BY RESIGNING . . .
Getting a half game point is not a loss . . .
A game isn't finished until the last move is made . . .
Jan 7, 2024
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#5
Constant draw offering is idiotic but happens a lot. They usually abandon the game a move from being checkmated in the end.
Jan 8, 2024
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#7
llama_l wrote:
I played in an OTB event recently. I was a piece up against an 8 year old. About every 5 moves he offered me a draw.
I didn't take it as rude. Kids don't realize it's dumb.
It is rude. Excessive draw offers are also against the rules.
I’ve been in a similar position, except my 12 year old opponent was offering a draw every move. I had a forced mate in 8 or 10 and was trying to work it out.
I laughed at the draw offers, recorded each on my scoresheet, and after the game explained to the player and his dad that the offers were inappropriate. As far as I know, he never repeated the behavior. A few years later, he was one of the top high school players in our city. Now living far away as an adult, he joined the club’s online events during COVID, beating most of the top players.
I teach children and serve as TD for about a dozen youth events per year. I am constantly telling the children that such draw offers are inappropriate. They still occur, but I like to think I’ve helped reduce them somewhat among our local players.
These inappropriate draw offers will always exist when players are new and/or young. They must be patiently discouraged.
Jan 8, 2024
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#8
Everyone does this. I was playing a 90+30 game where we played quite fast and I was winning. Then he offered a draw (by then we had like 95 minutes on the clock). That kid was weird.
It´s a online chess problem! We who learned to play chess OTB quickly were taught by our elders what was what and told off if we didn´t get it. It´s the internet again demonstrationg that information doesn´t equal knowledge.
Jan 8, 2024
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#10
The ones that offer a draw when they're losing - instead of resigning are usually and typically kids below the age of 13.
Jan 8, 2024
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#11
Defensa_de_Zafiro wrote:
I recently had a draw that was CLEARLY a draw and kept offering a draw and my opponent got mad and blocked me and eventually he offered me a draw once he realized.
Yes, that also happens.
I also had an opponent who seemed to play well above what would be expected, given his rating, then horribly misplayed a rook ending to reach a dead draw (Philidor position) and promptly resign.
I once resigned accidentally when I intended to offer a draw. Maybe they meant to resign and misclicked?
Jan 8, 2024
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#13
whiteknight1968 wrote:
I once resigned accidentally when I intended to offer a draw. Maybe they meant to resign and misclicked?
That happens. I’ve done it. You can tell when that happens because they usually find the resign button a second or two later.
1. You offer draw only when you genuinely believes that the position warrants it.
2. You only offer a draw once.
3. If you´re playing a significantly higher rated/stronger opponent you wait for him/her to offer draw.
Simple.
llama_l wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
llama_l wrote:
I played in an OTB event recently. I was a piece up against an 8 year old. About every 5 moves he offered me a draw.
I didn't take it as rude. Kids don't realize it's dumb.
It is rude. Excessive draw offers are also against the rules.
I’ve been in a similar position, except my 12 year old opponent was offering a draw every move. I had a forced mate in 8 or 10 and was trying to work it out.
I laughed at the draw offers, recorded each on my scoresheet, and after the game explained to the player and his dad that the offers were inappropriate. As far as I know, he never repeated the behavior. A few years later, he was one of the top high school players in our city. Now living far away as an adult, he joined the club’s online events during COVID, beating most of the top players.
I teach children and serve as TD for about a dozen youth events per year. I am constantly telling the children that such draw offers are inappropriate. They still occur, but I like to think I’ve helped reduce them somewhat among our local players.
These inappropriate draw offers will always exist when players are new and/or young. They must be patiently discouraged.
If it had been every move I would have complained. I wasn't exaggerating that he was only 8 though. I feel like it's awfully young. At one point he was playing with the captured pieces like action figures and became animated enough that it was distracting and I told him to stop.
He was too young to be rude.
Jan 8, 2024
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#16
hermanjohnell wrote:
He was too young to be rude.
How was he too young to be rude?
You are talking nonsense, kids are rude most of the time, especially today.
Corporal_Jones wrote:
hermanjohnell wrote:
He was too young to be rude.
How was he too young to be rude?
You are talking nonsense, kids are rude most of the time, especially today.
What is rude is when an adult calls another adults opinion nonsense.
Jan 8, 2024
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#18
hermanjohnell wrote:
Corporal_Jones wrote:
hermanjohnell wrote:
He was too young to be rude.
How was he too young to be rude?
You are talking nonsense, kids are rude most of the time, especially today.
What is rude is when an adult calls another adults opinion nonsense.
Gotta agree with that!
Jan 8, 2024
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#19
hermanjohnell wrote:
What is rude is when an adult calls another adults opinion nonsense.
But if I am only 8 years old, according to you it's not rude, because I am too young to be rude. No doubt kids who murder other kids are too young to murder other kids in your world view..
Corporal_Jones wrote:
hermanjohnell wrote:
What is rude is when an adult calls another adults opinion nonsense.
But if I am only 8 years old, according to you it's not rude, because I am too young to be rude. No doubt kids who murder other kids are too young to murder other kids in your world view..
My view is that there´s a huge difference between kids and adults. Do you think that 8 year olds should get to vote?