I was in serious time pressure in my last OTB event (game 1:55 + 5 second delay) because I was struggling on the Black side of a stonewall (White pawns on c3, d4, e3, f4).
I stopped recording on move 75 when I had four minutes left. My opponent had ten. I won on time with 1 1/2 minutes remaining. We played over 100 moves and the game lasted four hours and ten minutes.
That has to be the most illogical statement I've seen all week. How can people playing with increment be trying to win on time if increments reduce the possibility that a player will lose on time?
Ofcourse its those people who are against increments who are hoping they will win some games on time . Winning on time is far less likely with increments than without them ...
Increments are really a safety valve for players who cannot manage his time properly.
A lack of increments is a safety valve for players who cannot outplay their opponents. See how clever I am?
fairly clever
I dont want my opponents playing with their incriment or anything else. Cant you just leave that little thing alone. Stop rubbing yourself!!!!
That has to be the most illogical statement I've seen all week. How can people playing with increment be trying to win on time if increments reduce the possibility that a player will lose on time?>>
They don't reduce the possibility because it's possible to use increments to try to win on time. They reduce the overall proportion since most people may not use them that way. However, I encountered several players who use increments as a direct method of trying to win on time or in some way for gamesmanship.
The probablility is that you aren't very imaginative, so instead of pretending that other people are illogical, it may do you some good to find out what logic is. Logic depends entirely on premises and without useful premises, logic is pointless. In this case, increments present a pretty obvious way to try to win on time. It isn't my fault if you can't work out what it is and I'm not going to tell you, because you might try it.
Is that logical enough for you? I don't like increments and I don't believe they reduce the standard of games, since the time structure is fixed at the start and we work within it. It is true to say that in general, the slower a game is, the better standard it is played at. And it shouldn't matter particularly where the time is added. Personally, I like more time at the beginning because I tend to play difficult early middle games, so no increments suits me as well as preventing the gamesmansjhip I'm talking about.
You can disagree about the gamesmmanship if you like but so far as the rest of this goes, if you disagree you better have some good reasons. In my experience, most people who think they're a crack shot at logic are missing the fact that logic is simply correct arrangement of premises. If your premises are all to cock, which they are, then your argument is pointless, Synaphai.
Over and out.
As we all know what Optimissed is saying is nonsense, I suggest just ignoring it. Intentional trolls do exist, and there's no point arguing anyway either way.
The World Blitz Championships is now played at the standard time control of 3 +2 second increment. If you are playing over the board, it's best to play with an increment.
Most tournament players don't play with an increment when playing online though, for the very good reason that it's a bit more difficult to cheat when there's no increment.
So, there's a very good practical reason to play with no increment in fast online games, but that reason is removed when playing over the board.
Yea, that's what I thought. You're looking for excuses to be mean to others. I ask again, why do I need to justify what I like to do?
To play with an increment and call it blitz is ridiculous imo . I dont like that rapid chess ( quick chess ) also has increments these days .
To play with an increment and call it blitz is ridiculous imo . I dont like that rapid chess ( quick chess ) also has increments these days .
Agreed. anything below 10 min should be played without an increment. 15|10 is the lowest i like to play w/ increment. in OTB, the 10 is baisically just time to record the last move.
There are plenty of World Championship Blitz games available for viewing on youtube. The games don't look "ridiculous" to me.
In fact, the 3 +2 increment is even used in the standard World Championship matches.
One reason for increments even in blitz is to do away with the draw by insufficient winning chances rule. If there are really insufficient winning chances, prove it on the board. If your opponent just shuffles back and forth, you will actually gain time!
Its no longer blitz if it has increments imo , classic blitz is 5-0 , no silly increments and no silly delays ... they need to rename it , call it something else ...
To play with an increment and call it blitz is ridiculous imo . I dont like that rapid chess ( quick chess ) also has increments these days . >>>>
It is simply to appease technology geekers. If you don't play with increments, you don't need fancy electronic clocks that no-one can work out how to set or even switch on. If you don't need them then people who put tournaments on don't get to sell them or their mates don't get to sell them. Increments are just silly in blitz. As you say, it isn't blitz.
<<<Most tournament players don't play with an increment when playing online though, for the very good reason that it's a bit more difficult to cheat when there's no increment.
So, there's a very good practical reason to play with no increment in fast online games, but that reason is removed when playing over the board...>>>
I'm being called stupid for pointing that out though, by people who don't know how increments can be used to cheat.
As we all know what Optimissed is saying is nonsense, I suggest just ignoring it. Intentional trolls do exist, and there's no point arguing anyway either way.>>>>
Yes I agree, it's pretty common, when idiots run out of arguments, that they resort to generalised ad hom attacks.
The quality of the game is higher when time pressure isnt involved to make one " rush their moves " . Perhaps you arent interested in the quality of the game but I am . I have always managed my time very well but as you age you slow down and it becomes increasingly more difficult to play as fast as much younger opponents while maintaining accuracy . The time controls in the US weekend swisses only get faster and 3 and sometimes 4 games played in a day , I doubt thats the case in UK . When you get older and amass more OTB experience you will likely feel more like I do about increments .