Why do religious leaders feel threatened by chess?

i am muslem and i dont give a shit about saudi arabia mufti oppinion i like chess and no one can take that from me

u can say that again - oh u already did ...

I didn't read the whole thread, but I strongly suspect the reason a lot of religious leaders fear chess is because you can PROVE excellence and ability and knowledge through wins, rather than faith.

Not so dissimilar from science, where the fraudsters and quasileaders who have no truth to what they say, are totally exposed. 

that 'paboon' part was a most unkind touch

Fischer was far from "quite religious". He fell in with a particular cult, the Worldwide Church of God, for a time. The Worldwide Church of God and it's leader, Herbert W. Armstrong, were a particularly hateful bunch, who spewed all kinds of anti-Semetic rhetoric and made numerious "prophecies". When Armstrong's prophecies failed to come to pass, and upon realizing that they were only interested in him as long as he continued to give all his money to them, Bobby denounced the group. And not only them, but Christianity on the whole (but then, Bobby never was too adept at seperating individuals and small groups from entire demographics), as bullshit.

I'd suggest citing William Lombardy as a better example of a religious chess player than Bobby Fischer.

A question that starts with why probably has many answers. The question "why do religious leaders feel threatened by chess?" first of all asumes that religious leaders feel threatened by chess. Perhaps a religious leader or even religious leaders might choose to feel threatened by chess but i would imagine that threre is a least one religious leader or even many religious leaders that dont choose to feel threatened by chess. If according to Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy chess is the (A) activating event and the feeling (C) is to feel threatened then (B) ones belief system would play a crucial role in how one feels. 

Madarchod. (Mothafocka)

twighead wrote:

Priteshrp87 wrote:

Ye gabbas re. Bhenchod. Tujhya tar aaicha poocha tujhya mug..... Its in my marathi language. Now you find the translation for it. Good luck.

Boo boo Shrek-a-Peepee Kumloon Paboon Taraharamitsvak. It's in my native Darkene language, now you find translation for it. Good luck.

Fischer held a sabbath day, he is on record as stating that he really liked to read the Bible.  He went as far as to threaten legal action when it was asserted that he was a non Christian.  Now I don't know what definition of religious you are using but he seems quite religious to me.  The point is not whether Armstrongs religion or anyone else for that matter was/is true but whether Fischer was religious and clearly he was.

Fischer held a Sabbath day - back in the 1960s-70s, when he was in with Armstrong's cult. Fischer is on record as saying he really liked to read the Bible - back in the 1960s-70s, when he was in with Armstrong's cult. Fischer threated legal action against a publisher not for stating that he was non-Christian, but for stating that he was Jewish (and Bobby did come from a Jewish family, whether he wanted to accept that or not). Fischer was quite religious - back in the 1960s-70s, when he was in with Armstrong's cult. Before his affiliation with the Worldwide Church of God he once stated that religion existed to dull people's minds. And after he disavowed Armstrong, the Worldwide Church of God and Christianity as a whole he does not appear to have demonstrated any significant religious tendencies at all. If you want to cite religious chess players there's far better examples you could use than Bobby Fischer.

@Darth_Algar:  you're so right! 

 I would hate somebody to use quotes of me from the 1980s when I was religious to represent all my life. I'm not that same man anymore.

 There used to be an interview of Bobby Fischer on YouTube called  (Bobby Fischer talks about God, religion and love), but because of copyrights it was removed.

http://ytune.pk/watch/bm4uGECVyBE

 In that interview he basically said he no longer looked at the Bible or any other religious book as an authority of God.  When the interviewer kept referring to God as a "HE". Bobby Fischer responded by saying "How do you know he's a he?!"

In that interview which was done sometime after he returned to Iceland. He (Bobby Fischer) had a more worldly skeptical view of religion. 

No one is claiming that there are not better examples.  Indeed, as far as history is concerned Fischer stopped playing competitive chess in the seventies did he not? Therefore during his period as a competitive chess player he most certainly was religious and religiously inclined for the reasons that have already been proffered. That there are other chess players who are/were more religiously inclined does not negate this and is not even relevant.

What Fischer actually said was that he liked to read the Bible but that he did not take it literally.

The Bible says... "And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him." ~ (Colossians 3: 17) This includes chess. I am thankful to God for the game of chess and the opportunities it has opened up in my life. I hope to honor Him with good sportmanship.

I do love when people jump though hoops to attempt to justify their wrong statements.

it started out as an anti religious thread.

@Kfassbender and @robbie_1969

Neither.

Why are people denying that Fischer was religious?It is true that he was religious.But ofcourse it did him no good and the guy who he used to follow escalated his already existing hatred for Jews.