why do some poeple never resiging in online chess?

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woton
repac3161 wrote:

 

The two are mutually inclusive. For example, If someone has a rating clearly above 1000, and has shown that they are worth this over the course of a game then resigning in a Q + K vs K game covers both points. Yet, I find I am often forced to play out this and any number of ridiculously "won" positions. 

I often wonder why some of my opponents want to play a K+R (Q) vs K endgame to conclusion, but it usually takes 2 or 3 minutes and is quite simple.

The opponents that I find annoying are the ones who try to run me out of time in a K+R vs K+R endgame.  We make 50 aimless moves and the game concludes by my claiming a draw (occasionally I don't have enough time and they win what OTB would have been a drawn game).

Captain_Coconut
repac3161 wrote:
Captain_Coconut wrote:

Personally, I think that's beside the point, a resignation is something someone does when they don't see any point in playing out the endgame, not something that is owed to someone out of "respect."

The two are mutually inclusive. For example, If someone has a rating clearly above 1000, and has shown that they are worth this over the course of a game then resigning in a Q + K vs K game covers both points. Yet, I find I am often forced to play out this and any number of ridiculously "won" positions. 

No, they're not.  The goal is checkmate.  Nobody owes anyone a resignation.  Resignation is something the loser chooses to do because they don't want to play to checkmate.  That's it.  The idea that it's because of respect for someone is silly.  If you KNOW they have the ability to force a win, of course you resign because it's futile to play on, not out of respect for their ability, but because you know their ability.  If someone refuses to resign in a completely and guaranteed lost position, it's because they're too dumb to end the game gracefully, not necessarity because they doubt your ability.  Stop manufacturing slights to your honor where none exist, and whining about being forced to win a won game.  Boo hoo.

 

Iluvsmetuna wrote:

Cool! Then let's rip up this joint together!

You're on, brother!

kingsrook11

Know/respect. Yes, I have used a slightly different word to express the same idea which you seem to agree with.

Actually, what bothers me about people's unwillingness to resign is the complete waste of time involved. My leisure time is finite. In so many hours time, I know I will be back at work, which I don't enjoy. So, when I spend a certain amount of my finite leisure time playing chess I get annoyed about having to spend a noticeably amount of it playing out ridiculously "won" positions. I would like to think my opponent cares about this too, but maybe they are just stuck at work wiling away time.  

Iluvsmetuna

Reasons why chess is still a dockers game:

1. Three days for one move! What kid would agree to play snakes and ladders at one dice throw in three days ?

It makes it look like a geriatrics game!

2. The chat box! Chess should be played with a snack box, not a chat box!!

FuzzleOIL

I'm playing a vote chess game and we got this position:

No reason to resign for white. Maybe they were hoping for a win on time? Tongue Out

Finally our pawn will promote this night.

Captain_Coconut
TabithaEChess wrote:
kaynight wrote:

Still say if people have issues with time, chess is not for them.

Still say if people have issues with thyme, cooking is not for them.

Still say if people have issues with rhyme, rap is not for them.

Darth_Algar

If you expect (I'd say almost demand, going by some of the posts I see here) your opponant to resign because checkmating them takes too long then perhaps chess isn't the game for you.

Iluvsmetuna

Guys who don't know when they are beat should have the fair play rule book thrown at them!

phinneas
tjepie wrote:

i have played some poeple at online chess who never resiging and won't explain why they keep playing. are you one of those poeple? please explain why you don't resiging when the possition is lost.

here is an example

http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=95856342

I don't want to explain you why they don't resigning when the position is lost. I ask you why you do not finish a position when you are win.

“It isn't against the Law to be an idiot.” ― Cassandra Clare, Clockwork Angel

freshy17

What is your problem if they resign or not? I find it extremely arrogant of some people who feed their own egos and feel superior in wanting the opponent to resing. Yes even if their position is hopeless. If that was the case the "superior" one should be able to finish the game in a few moves. Yes, even if they have to wait for 3 days to continue the game. This is a quite large community and you're bound to play against players of any kind. You should be preprared for it. If you dislike it so much maybe you should consider not playing 3 day turn games. The others are entitled to take their time and play their game as much as you are. I for instance, never quit. NEVER. Is not in my DNA, sorry if it bothers my opponent. Once my online opponent wrote me a message saying "just resign already". I found it extremely rude and disrespectful. And I ended up beating him/her. So there.

Captain_Coconut

It's a fragile ego thing.

"I know I won but I wanna hear YOU say it!"

Pretty pathetic, really.

ThorPawn

I like to make as queens as I can, and then I try to move without giving check and without stalemate. Is a good exercise.

tomtryto

you know what I like to keep fighting mostly, one it sharpens the other player as they need to focus to kill, two people often screw up because too many people overestimate their opponents skill so they don't practise ending games, and three the game can still be interesting. If your chess is strong, you should finish them quickly anyway.

ThorPawn

I have a new fancy: underpromote. Is really funny. In a Vote chess we are going to experience the beauty of four knights riding with their manes to the wind. Laughing

Rickett2222
Iluvsmetuna wrote:

Reasons why chess is still a dockers game:

1. Three days for one move! What kid would agree to play snakes and ladders at one dice throw in three days ?

It makes it look like a geriatrics game!

2. The chat box! Chess should be played with a snack box, not a chat box!!

Games are for everyone you want instant move go ahead your choice. Some people have family and work and would like to still play the occasional game their choice of moves tempo belongs to them.

In my days we played correspondance chess and it took 5 to 10 days to play a move, should this type of game not being allowed.Of course not.

cschene

Until checkmate or my time ruinning out there is always hope.

 

Simple perseverance and  refusal to give up can wear down many an opponent in an otherwise lost game.

I will make you earn your win.

Darth_Algar

If you know you've got your opponant checkmated in a handful of moves, but don't want to play out those moves, instead expecting him to resign, then why are you playing?

jlconn

For that matter, why not agree to a draw before any move is played, since the beginning position is equal? Or resign as Black if you think White has an advantage and with best possible play, would win.

FuzzleOIL

Many players who are in a lost position do resign. But only at the very final move. Why that?!

 

Here is one of those many examples. Black missed a mate in one earlier, but do you really think black will blunder the game?

Of course white used 65 h of his 72 h every single move after move 30 ...