Why does chess.com promote bad players?

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JoshuaMcabe

I remember a while ago reading an article from a beginner female player called Louisa Thomas about her first chess tournament https://www.chess.com/article/view/my-first-chess-tournament. I also remember reading another one about tactics as well by the same author. At the time I remember thinking it was weird that such an amateur players article was put at the top of the list and promoted so heavily.  She very quickly became one of chess.coms leading "authors"

 

I recently watched this video online -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opu-YC2CoOQ&index=29&list=PL1aNaTk8HxQo2XMUUehG7gAlz6D3IFOdh  - with Danny Rensch and John Urschel and it turns out that Louisa Thomas is John's fiance. In the video John asks Danny if chess.com users are aware who his fiance is and he says he doesn't think they are. I certainly wasn't.

 

There are many talented writers who actually have the credentials on this site that aren't given the same chances or promoted the same as Danny's friends. I think it is appalling. It seems on chess.com it's not what you know, but who you know.

JoshuaMcabe

Also why is an ex american football player even featuring on chess.com? There are many titled players crying out for work but you choose to ignore them and give jobs to your buddies instead. It is sickening.

Toire

Did you join the Site today just to tell us that?

JoshuaMcabe
Toire wrote:

Did you join the Site today just to tell us that?

 

I had an account but deleted it. Viewing this video today reminds me why I did. Shocking that chess "jobs" are given to not just the owners friends but the fiances of friends. Why not be transparent and tell us all who she is, instead of pretending that she is just a random amateur player. I bet she doesn't even like chess. Like I said - not what you know - who you know.

JoshuaMcabe

Am I the only one outraged by the duplicity here?

dfgh123

titled players can't write interesting articles

Lagomorph
JoshuaMcabe wrote:

Am I the only one outraged by the duplicity here?

 

Pretty much so yes.

JoshuaMcabe

Well I will not be playing on this site anymore. It seems chess.com is a site for liars and deceivers.

JoshuaMcabe
Optimissed wrote:

She's a decent enough writer and she tells the story of an ordinary beginner. It's vaguely interesting .... far more interesting than most of her detractors could manage. That's why.

 

Well she is a professional author so I would imagine she would be ok at writing. The point is that she is promoted by this site because of who her boyfriend is. She was sold to us as a real chess amatuer. As it transpires she is a phony. Using chess to further her own agenda. 

JustOneUSer
But do people want the news from another grandmaster? Or from a famous American footballer?

Most people from both. There are lots of GMs, so people want to hear about the beginners, about famous people who are chess players.

If the community wanted another 10 GM's to write articles, they'd get it. But they don't, they want the I out from good writers, who write about beginners, and from famous sports players.

Supply and demand. Supply and demand, supply and demand. The 3 most important business rules.
JoshuaMcabe

But the articles are NOT written by just your average female chess fan. John Urschel is an ex american footballer who knows Danny Rensch and has an interest in chess it seems. He has been given his own show on this site. His fiance is an author posing as a chess fan to promote herself. If she had been open and honest about the connection then fine. However she was not. 

 

Anyway. The question still stands. Why do chess.com promote terrible players? Both of them are garbage chess players. I can MAYBE see the attraction with Hutch as he has a large youtube following.

Pulpofeira

She cares too much about ratings.

Pulpofeira
JoshuaMcabe escribió:

Anyway. The question still stands. Why do chess.com promote terrible players? Both of them are garbage chess players. I can MAYBE see the attraction with Hutch as he has a large youtube following.

Maybe because many of us are, too.

JustOneUSer
They are beginners.


There to help beginners.

Yes, they could go out and find beginners who want to do the job, or use a beginner they already know, trust, and who has a personal relationship with one or two other? It's easier to use the people you are already in contact with.

They did tell you, they didn't have to. If they wanted to cover it up they would never have told you. They didn't not tell you because they wanted to hide it. They just musn't have thought it was important or relevant.
JustOneUSer
Anyway in life in general it isn't what you know but who you know. Ask the thousands of aspiring doctors, musicians and authors out there to name a few. Chess.com is probably more fair then most other jobs in the big bad world.
lfPatriotGames
JoshuaMcabe wrote:

Am I the only one outraged by the duplicity here?

I would say probably yes. You have to remember, chess is just entertainment. It's a game, a hobby, recreation. So if a writer is entertaining, that is exactly what is needed and serves the purpose as intended. As Vicount said it's likely most people would want their chess news from a grandmaster AND a famous footballer. Or some other interesting person. If a grandmaster (or other qualified person) can't relay information very well, there wont be much of an audience. Sounds to me like chess.com got this one right.

JustOneUSer
anyway I wouldn't say your in the position to call players garbage.
JoshuaMcabe
VicountVonJames wrote:
They are beginners.


There to help beginners.

Yes, they could go out and find beginners who want to do the job, or use a beginner they already know, trust, and who has a personal relationship with one or two other? It's easier to use the people you are already in contact with.

They did tell you, they didn't have to. If they wanted to cover it up they would never have told you. They didn't not tell you because they wanted to hide it. They just musn't have thought it was important or relevant.

 

No they didn't tell us. John gave it away himself in the video. Danny even says himself that chess.com users do not know the connection between them both. They wanted her to seem just like an average female beginner chess player. When it is not the case.

JoshuaMcabe
lfPatriotGames wrote:
JoshuaMcabe wrote:

Am I the only one outraged by the duplicity here?

I would say probably yes. You have to remember, chess is just entertainment. It's a game, a hobby, recreation. So if a writer is entertaining, that is exactly what is needed and serves the purpose as intended. As Vicount said it's likely most people would want their chess news from a grandmaster AND a famous footballer. Or some other interesting person. If a grandmaster (or other qualified person) can't relay information very well, there wont be much of an audience. Sounds to me like chess.com got this one right.

 

Got it right by getting someone to make up stories? 

Resourcelink3
Er....please stop this pointless chat ....going nowhere ..fast🤦‍♂️
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