I for one never think people have limited brain power, but rather what they wish to invest their thought in. People constanly surprise.
Why does society hate chess?
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Why society does not hate chess? Because it does not care about it. It doesn't evoke any strong feelings.
Nov 11, 2015
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#464
you're giving chess too much credit.
Society doesn't even think of chess.
Society gives a damn to the chess.
zzzzzzzzzzzzz......
The question is pointless.
How would it be hated when we not only have thousands upon thousands of books printed, but livestreams of events, at least 5-6 world known and registered international servers where anyone can play; monthly (and weekly) papers, etc.; you get my point.
Anyone who even makes this assumption is stu as fu.
Dec 4, 2015
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#468
GnrfFrtzl wrote:
The question is pointless.
How would it be hated when we not only have thousands upon thousands of books printed, but livestreams of events, at least 5-6 world known and registered international servers where anyone can play; monthly (and weekly) papers, etc.; you get my point.
Anyone who even makes this assumption is stu as fu.
Exactly. And millions of millions watched the Carlsen vs Anand world championship.
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stuzzicadenti wrote:
people avoid what they don't understand. and when people avoid something they also tend to criticize it. most people don't ever try to understand chess because of the existing negative social perception of it. even people who like chess usually don't want to talk to their friends about it if they don't share the same interest, sometimes because they are afraid of being labeled. there is an overwhelming image of chess being a sign of intelligence and chess players are associated with being lonely and anti-social. that is simply not true. chess is just a game like any other, but it has a high learning curve. people who start playing chess lose hundreds of games before even winning one, and people who become easily discouraged basically give up and forget about chess, or say bad things about chess players. people who stick to chess and actually try to learn the game, not just to win or lose but to understand strategies and become passionate about chess, usually do well. but it's a long term process and huge time investment. to be a good chess player you have to let go of your ego and be humble, and realize that chess, like life, is not about winning or losing but about learning. and this is a much healthier approach because you will gradually learn to see and appreciate how deep chess really is.
in contrast, the majority of society is shallow and does not possess the patience to get good at chess. we live in a world of immediate gratification. the people who truly can appreciate chess are few and far between.
I know this has been already stated as the first reply what this guy said but if I can do anything, I want to repeat everything this guy said without reading this very long thread. Get over it. If you love chess just don't think about what other people love, don't critize other people to reinforce your own ego, you can still have an ego about chess but just......be smart. Don't talk to people about it. Anyone forgot anything about trust? You need to trust someone first for gods sake! lol
Dec 4, 2015
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#471
Society hates chess because chess players used to occupy coffee shops playing chess all night long without purchasing much food or leaving big tips for their extended stays. Then all of a sudden they disapeared altogether to go play chess online without so much as a thank you for letting us use your coffee shop to play blitz! Sorry we didn't drink more coffee and took up all the seating.
Dec 5, 2015
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#472
KingMagikarp wrote:
It is art and beautiful.
Yet society sees it as a nerdy loser pastime.
I guess that you mean: why does USA hate chess?
well one reason is because chess is the game of the former Soviet Union and many other countries which were part of the communist union in europe, this countries had the best players in the world, and used it that as communist propaganda of superior intelligent. Also the soviets used to cheat in tournaments giving away points betwen their players to win (they did this to Fisher and to other players in the west). Another reason USA hates chess is because it makes people smart and wise, USA don't want smart and wise people, USA wants the regular stupid working class people who is not wise enough and would spend money foolishly on the first thing that comes along.
Dec 5, 2015
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#473
I believe the cause to why chess is disliked by some is, well a lot of reasons. People get turned off cuz they think it's too complicated or maybe they didn't like losing. I heard this funny thing today, learn the rules so you can break the rules and call it art. I certainly didn't make the rules. Haha
Dec 5, 2015
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#474
Maybe not an outright disliked... but chess certaintly is not embrased like other more popular "sports" like football, basketball etc. in the US. I coach middle school students and many of them move on to compete in the scholastic high school division... but many dont. Two years ago, one of my strongest players I have ever coached told me in no uncertain terms that playing chess..."ruined his image" and it "was too nerdy".
Dec 5, 2015
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#475
Most adults yes. I do coach in the south eastern US... where hunting is huge though.. Many of the fathers of my chess playing students see very little value in chess. "Not man enough" one dad said. Too many times a player of mine misses a tournament because they went hunting for the weekend. ugh says coach
Dec 5, 2015
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#476
Careful there Ms Kitten... lol, I moved from So Cal (LA County) and it was a huge step up.
Ill pitch my 10 middle school chess players against yours ..anytime :D (5 county chess championships) hehe
During my grade school and high school days (1990s), my schoolmates called me "Geek" because I always brought my chessboard to school and bought newspapers with chess columns or news to study games of masters. Admittedly, I was not popular and was rarely invited to parties/events. I honestly did not care. I got a college scholarship because of chess. Because of work, I became more sociable and climbed the corporate ladder. Became a supervisor in a law firm while many "popular" schoolmates have no stable jobs or work outside the country because they cannot find a good paying job here. 😀
clms_chess wrote:
Maybe not an outright disliked... but chess certaintly is not embrased like other more popular "sports" like football, basketball etc. in the US. I coach middle school students and many of them move on to compete in the scholastic high school division... but many dont. Two years ago, one of my strongest players I have ever coached told me in no uncertain terms that playing chess..."ruined his image" and it "was too nerdy".
Dec 5, 2015
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#478
Whip_Kitten wrote:
clms_chess wrote:
Careful there Ms Kitten... lol, I moved from So Cal (LA County) and it was a huge step up.
Ill pitch my 10 middle school chess players against yours ..anytime :D (5 county chess championships) hehe
My 10 middle school players were Japanese and more interested in video games.
LOL
clms_chess wrote:
I hunt *and* play chess!!! In the south east at that.
Hunting isn't as popular as you are making it out to be. I would go so far as to say more people hate hunting than hate chess.
Most folks don't think about chess at all. I think gaming has replaced chess as entertainment for the young. Many of my friends children/grandchildren spend every spare moment gaming. They have little aspiration for anything else, no other hobbies that require curiosity, like maybe tropical fish, photography, playing a musical instrument, ect. Even hunting can be a fun hobby as there is more to hunting than just shooting something, for most anyway. At least it's out of the house.
when I ask them what they want to do when they get out of school they will say something like "make computer games". I honestly don't think they know that programmers make them.
Like has been stated in a few posts above me, we've become lazy and stupid. It's just a sad fact. Our next overlords, whoever they may be, are going to have their hands full, managing a country full of lazy dumbasses.
Most adults yes. I do coach in the south eastern US... where hunting is huge though.. Many of the fathers of my chess playing students see very little value in chess. "Not man enough" one dad said. Too many times a player of mine misses a tournament because they went hunting for the weekend. ugh says coach
Dec 5, 2015
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#480
You hunt and play chess... good. maybe I can you have you talk to some of these fathers lol.
Hunting is big enough in the South East. I coach and have taught and currently work as a physical therapist ... in rural USA. There is wayyy more camouflage clothes wearing kids than chess players in these parts lol.
People w/ limited brain power typically do not like to think too much 'cuz it's hard for them when asked to "layer thought".