Why don't people resign when I win their queen or rook for nothing? - Chess Forums - Page 3

pipxr

Nov 1, 2017

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#41

eulers_knot wrote:

SuperGirl1456 wrote:

Because, there's always the chance of your opponent making a mistake.

Of course. The premise of the thread is that one player has made a mistake that has them down by a rook or queen. The OP must think he's infallible, or at least would like his opponent to think that so they'll resign.

To the notion above that "strong players resign": I would think the opposite would be true. Wouldn't a strong player have confidence that they can be down a rook or even a queen and still win?

that's true, but strong players also know when their about to lose, and one characteristic of theirs is to accept loss, meaning that if they know they're going to lose, they would rather resign early on so that they can play another game which is what helps build them to become stronger

eulers_knot

Nov 1, 2017

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#42

pipxr wrote:

eulers_knot wrote:

SuperGirl1456 wrote:

Because, there's always the chance of your opponent making a mistake.

Of course. The premise of the thread is that one player has made a mistake that has them down by a rook or queen. The OP must think he's infallible, or at least would like his opponent to think that so they'll resign.

To the notion above that "strong players resign": I would think the opposite would be true. Wouldn't a strong player have confidence that they can be down a rook or even a queen and still win?

that's true, but strong players also know when their about to lose, and one characteristic of theirs is to accept loss, meaning that if they know they're going to lose, they would rather resign early on so that they can play another game which is what helps build them to become stronger

It's one thing to be down a rook or queen with mate in two, and something entirely different to be down a rook or queen with the outcome uncertain. Different situations demand different approaches. Fighting your way back also builds strength.

chesster3145

Nov 1, 2017

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#43

eulers_knot wrote:

pipxr wrote:

eulers_knot wrote:

SuperGirl1456 wrote:

Because, there's always the chance of your opponent making a mistake.

Of course. The premise of the thread is that one player has made a mistake that has them down by a rook or queen. The OP must think he's infallible, or at least would like his opponent to think that so they'll resign.

To the notion above that "strong players resign": I would think the opposite would be true. Wouldn't a strong player have confidence that they can be down a rook or even a queen and still win?

that's true, but strong players also know when their about to lose, and one characteristic of theirs is to accept loss, meaning that if they know they're going to lose, they would rather resign early on so that they can play another game which is what helps build them to become stronger

It's one thing to be down a rook or queen with mate in two, and something entirely different to be down a rook or queen with the outcome uncertain. Different situations demand different approaches. Fighting your way back also builds strength.

More than starting a new game or annotating yours with the time you would have wasted on a lost game?

cranb3rry

Nov 1, 2017

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#44

Because they hope for something like this:

*throws laptop out of the window*

IMKeto

Nov 1, 2017

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#45

LeonSKennedy992 wrote:

Grandmasters resign immediately out of respect for their opponent. People on chess.com are NOT respectful.

Its online chess, where anything could happen. You could lose connection, and lose a queen up.

lfPatriotGames

Nov 1, 2017

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#46

With_Style wrote:

lfPatriotGames wrote:

With_Style wrote:

So you're telling me that this guy has a chance of winning and therefore shouldn't resign?

Yes, that is exactly what many are saying. Of course the chance of winning is small, but at such a low rating, the chance of a stalemate or draw is decent. I agree it's up to the individual if or when they want to resign, not the opponent. Instead of complaining that someone isn't resigning I look at it as a great opportunity to perfect checkmating skills.

"low rating"

23k games 1300 blitz

...

By "low rating" I meant a 1700 or 1800 tactics rating. But even a low rated player who can only muster a 1800 tactics ability should probably use that opportunity when his opponent doesn't resign for something good. Maybe not just practicing a tricky checkmate or avoiding a stalemate, but also things like humility and patience.

eulers_knot

Nov 1, 2017

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#47

chesster3145 wrote:

eulers_knot wrote:

pipxr wrote:

eulers_knot wrote:

SuperGirl1456 wrote:

Because, there's always the chance of your opponent making a mistake.

Of course. The premise of the thread is that one player has made a mistake that has them down by a rook or queen. The OP must think he's infallible, or at least would like his opponent to think that so they'll resign.

To the notion above that "strong players resign": I would think the opposite would be true. Wouldn't a strong player have confidence that they can be down a rook or even a queen and still win?

that's true, but strong players also know when their about to lose, and one characteristic of theirs is to accept loss, meaning that if they know they're going to lose, they would rather resign early on so that they can play another game which is what helps build them to become stronger

It's one thing to be down a rook or queen with mate in two, and something entirely different to be down a rook or queen with the outcome uncertain. Different situations demand different approaches. Fighting your way back also builds strength.

More than starting a new game or annotating yours with the time you would have wasted on a lost game?

Yes, because it takes stamina, creativity, will to dig out of a hole in a live game.

RainierBeer

Nov 1, 2017

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#48

Dead queen = resign. Respect is one thing but my time is valuable. No sense beating a dead horse.

SnowyTheWolf

Nov 1, 2017

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#49

lukascohen wrote:

Because they hope for something like this:

*throws laptop out of the window*

exactly

JustOneUSer

Nov 1, 2017

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#50

For someone so defensive about ediqute, with style, you just broke a site rule, I think.

Hmm....

JustOneUSer

Nov 1, 2017

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#51

English isn't my native language.

Sorry, I didn't realise we were starting insults. I guess a civilised conversation was far too much to ask.

Oh, and you going to apologise?

Also, for someone so obsessed with manners, you do lack them in the upmost.

JustOneUSer

Nov 1, 2017

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#52

#69

What did I spell wrong? Keep in mind I use British spellings. I don't think I spelt more then a word wrong in that sentence...oh wow. I missed a "T" and used a "T" instead of a "D".

What a crime against nature.

That's all the manners one can expect from a 2000 angsty teen, I guess.

EndgameEnthusiast2357

Nov 1, 2017

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#53

Because they could still mate you. I once played a game where I was a queen and rook ahead, and I got mated by 3 of his minor pieces. It was a really cool mate. The winning side can still make a mistake, and that's all it takes: 1 mistake

JustOneUSer

Nov 1, 2017

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#54

It was one word, With style, one word.

Why aren't you changing your comment or apologising for breaking site rules? You seem to have a shortcoming in reading (site rules) and in manners?

JustOneUSer

Nov 1, 2017

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#55

Look I'm leaving this thread.

I came for a discussion, withstyle decides to insult me and disrespect me- to put it in the OP's terms.

Can't we just talk about chess without constant bickering over things like spelling? The only reason someone resorts to insulting spelling is because they can't think of a way to justify a previous statement or defend their point. The comment was still readable, and it was one mistake. I'm human. Believe it or not, we all make them.

IMKeto

Nov 1, 2017

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#56

With_Style wrote:

VicountVonJames wrote:

For someone so defensive about ediqute, with style, you just broke a site rule, I think.

Hmm....

Spelling must not be your strong suit. But then again, what can I expect from 1100 blitz 1k games?

Your insecurities are showing, even more.

JustOneUSer

Nov 1, 2017

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#57

What was that? An insult rather then discuss a point? Oh. This is starting to get repetitive.

I'm 100 points higher in the board, but I guess 12 hundred is still terrible. Anyway I'm happy with my rating- in the sense that, a few months ago, I was 800.

How long have you been playing, with-style? When did you learn?

Also, I believe in helping members of the weaker community, we all start of weak, rather then stamping them down and criticising them. Help them reach a higher level, don't laugh at them for being low. For all you know I learnt chess on chess.com, and so have improved a lot in a few months, when you might have been playing for ten years.

I've got two words for you, two little words.

Grow, up.

Or, if that's offensive,

Improve maturity. Use that instead.

Just please don't put me down and insult me, let me enjoy chess and enjoy talking about it without feeling the need to strengthen your ego. I'm doing you no harm, don't do me any. Had everyone out you down when you were at my level you may not be where you are today. Keep that in mind. Show respect to others. If chess was only for 1500+ then the next generation of chess players might not be so good. I'm here to learn on the forums and help those weaker then me, I suggest you do the same.

Also, learn the site rules. At least I can read, something which it seems you have struggled with on one occasion. You seem to read what you want.

JustOneUSer

Nov 1, 2017

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#58

I meant I'm ending this discussion between us. After this comment I'm ignoring you, on this topic, at least.

Quit the petty insults and actually read my posts. Your making yourself look rude, stupid, and angsty here. I'm sure your not many of those.

I'd rather be poor at chess but willing to help then good at it and arragont.

Anyway, the fact you keep correcting grammatical errors simply shows you are either

1. Unable to hold a sensible discussion
2. Trolling, and badly.
3. That you ignore all other opinions bar your own.

So, please, let's talk about chess and chess.com, not your fanatical obsessions its your ego, the enjoyment you get from correcting others, (I'd see someone about that) or even your public alligatioms.

Not that you'll read or care about any of the above comment, that is.

p1day1

Nov 1, 2017

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#59

The same reason people start a new thread on THE SAME SUBJECT once a week

JustOneUSer

Nov 1, 2017

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#60

More then that, this is the 2nd or third in 7 days, at least.