Why don't players resign?

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chess_kebabs
boringidiot wrote:

I am not talking about being a pawn down, or two, with some pratical but remote chances to survive.

I am talking about being LOST. King vs King and Rook. That kind of thing. Or King and Pawn, vs King, and you cannot stop the pawn from promoting, because your king is too far away. 

You should reckognize that you have played so badly that you don't have the right to waste your opponent's time any more. 

You should recognise that players can get stalemates in very lost positions, and often do. I have gotten many from opponents getting too complacent and forgetting to double check if their move is going to award a stalemate. Why should anyone resign with that possibility when stalemate is a legal outcome in chess? 

Do you think the player in the winning position should be given the win if he or she is sharp during the opening and middle game but not sharp during the endgame?

Do you dispute the legality of the Stalemate rule? I can only see you do to not think it's fair and right to allow every opponent to fight for a legal/allowed rule/outcome of chess.

trysts
chess_kebabs wrote:

Do you think the player in the winning position should be given the win if he or she is sharp during the opening and middle game but not sharp during the endgame?

 

That's very true. I've gotten many wins because my opponent's play dropped significantly in the endgame.

chess_kebabs
trysts wrote:
chess_kebabs wrote:

Do you think the player in the winning position should be given the win if he or she is sharp during the opening and middle game but not sharp during the endgame?

 

That's very true. I've gotten many wins because my opponent's play dropped significantly in the endgame.

Hope you and I both get many more..  Laughing

Michael-G

Anyone has the right to resign or to continue.We don't have the rigt to "demand" resignation no matter what the material superiority is.It's arrogance to consider that our opponent is forced to resign because he is a rook or a queen down.It's his/hers decision , not yours.

trysts
chess_kebabs wrote:
trysts wrote:
chess_kebabs wrote:

Do you think the player in the winning position should be given the win if he or she is sharp during the opening and middle game but not sharp during the endgame?

 

That's very true. I've gotten many wins because my opponent's play dropped significantly in the endgame.

Hope you and I both get many more..  

Smile

Afterall, resigning is just a courtesy. The other player can't demand it. I mean, who resigns when someone tells them to?Laughing

chess_kebabs
trysts wrote:
chess_kebabs wrote:
trysts wrote:
chess_kebabs wrote:

Do you think the player in the winning position should be given the win if he or she is sharp during the opening and middle game but not sharp during the endgame?

 

That's very true. I've gotten many wins because my opponent's play dropped significantly in the endgame.

Hope you and I both get many more..  

 

Afterall, resigning is just a courtesy. The other player can't demand it. I mean, who resigns when someone tells them to?

I sure don't.. instead of giving them my resignation I give them an ear full.. lol Laughing

chess_kebabs
Michael-G wrote:

Anyone has the right to resign or to continue.We don't have the rigt to "demand" resignation no matter what the material superiority is.It's arrogance to consider that our opponent is forced to resign because he is a rook or a queen down.It's his/hers decision , not yours.

Well said Michael-G. I agree, totally and utterly very arrogant..

trysts

@kebabs, in response to the pm:

Please don't worry about it. It's sometimes hard to tell the tone of a comment, and I've easily misunderstood many comments myself. Smile

ClavierCavalier

I hate it when people "disconnect" when they're losing.  What's worse is when they sit and wait for their time to run out, hoping their opponent will get sick of waiting and resign.  The silliest thing is when someone did this to me today in an unrated game.

chess_kebabs
trysts wrote:

@kebabs, in response to the pm:

Please don't worry about it. It's sometimes hard to tell the tone of a comment, and I've easily misunderstood many comments myself. 

muah, or is it mwah? I never know.. lol

chess_kebabs
ClavierCavalier wrote:

I hate it when people "disconnect" when they're losing.  What's worse is when they sit and wait for their time to run out, hoping their opponent will get sick of waiting and resign.  The silliest thing is when someone did this to me today in an unrated game.

How can you be sure though the disconnection is losing? I always give my opponent the benefit of the doubt. Also we only have to wait 2 minutes for them to reconnect. If they don't reconnect in 2 minutes we're awarded the win, so no big deal. It's worse if they don't disconnect and just let the clock tick down hoping you will give up and resign. If you're a  premium member can play multiple games at once, so you can start another game with someone else and let the other game  run down in the background. I've done that before. :)

MDOC777

Moi.

trysts
chess_kebabs wrote:

muah, or is it mwah? I never know.. lol

Laughing

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ClavierCavalier
chess_kebabs wrote:

How can you be sure though the disconnection is losing? I always give my opponent the benefit of the doubt. Also we only have to wait 2 minutes for them to reconnect. If they don't reconnect in 2 minutes we're awarded the win, so no big deal. It's worse if they don't disconnect and just let the clock tick down hoping you will give up and resign. If you're a  premium member can play multiple games at once, so you can start another game with someone else and let the other game  run down in the background. I've done that before. :)


I know about bad connections, but when they exchange their queen for a pawn and then suddenly disconnect, I can't help but think they're just quitting.  Although I just realized that maybe they get angry, close their browser and storm off. 

When they do the time thing, I tend to just open up netflix and watch something.  If I'm sitting at school in the computer lab between French class and my piano lesson, I just have to sit there and wait.

chess_kebabs

my earlier post was poorly written. I mean to say how can you know someone disconnected deliberately because they are losing. You can't know. Hence I always give them the benefit of the doubt.. and I don't mind waiting 2 minutes.. good opportunity to grab a drink. Laughing

chess_kebabs
ClavierCavalier wrote:
chess_kebabs wrote:

How can you be sure though the disconnection is losing? I always give my opponent the benefit of the doubt. Also we only have to wait 2 minutes for them to reconnect. If they don't reconnect in 2 minutes we're awarded the win, so no big deal. It's worse if they don't disconnect and just let the clock tick down hoping you will give up and resign. If you're a  premium member can play multiple games at once, so you can start another game with someone else and let the other game  run down in the background. I've done that before. :)


I know about bad connections, but when they exchange their queen for a pawn and then suddenly disconnect, I can't help but think they're just quitting.  Although I just realized that maybe they get angry, close their browser and storm off. 

When they do the time thing, I tend to just open up netflix and watch something.  If I'm sitting at school in the computer lab between French class and my piano lesson, I just have to sit there and wait.

sure, some will do it deliberately, but I guess they don't realise that their opponent only has to wait 2 minutes to get the win, not the 25 minutes or however much time is remaining on the clock, if there is much. 

ClavierCavalier
chess_kebabs wrote:
ClavierCavalier wrote:
chess_kebabs wrote:

How can you be sure though the disconnection is losing? I always give my opponent the benefit of the doubt. Also we only have to wait 2 minutes for them to reconnect. If they don't reconnect in 2 minutes we're awarded the win, so no big deal. It's worse if they don't disconnect and just let the clock tick down hoping you will give up and resign. If you're a  premium member can play multiple games at once, so you can start another game with someone else and let the other game  run down in the background. I've done that before. :)


I know about bad connections, but when they exchange their queen for a pawn and then suddenly disconnect, I can't help but think they're just quitting.  Although I just realized that maybe they get angry, close their browser and storm off. 

When they do the time thing, I tend to just open up netflix and watch something.  If I'm sitting at school in the computer lab between French class and my piano lesson, I just have to sit there and wait.

sure, some will do it deliberately, but I guess they don't realise that their opponent only has to wait 2 minutes to get the win, not the 25 minutes or however much time is remaining on the clock, if there is much. 

I got what you meant the first time.  The fact is that there are some who do it and some who don't.  The next vote Chess.com has should be "When you're losing..." and have Resign, Disconnect, Wait for Time to run out as options.  Another one might be "When you disconnect, is it because..." A. I'm losing; B. I have a bad connection; C.  The boss walked in; D. I'm angry; E.  The girlfriend/boyfriend just came over, and chess isn't as good as ... 

Although, for the ones that do disconnect, I often wonder if they realize it still counts as a win.

CharacterZero

I won a game once where I was sure I had lost, but decided not to resign. The thing is though I won the game with  .3 of a second left on the clock. I consider it one of my best games I have ever played. A blunder and wonder became a win!! What a good "time" it was. Much love chess world, keep playing!

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