Why Is the Rook so Short?

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chessspy1 wrote:

Actually, this question about the relative sizes of the chess pieces does deserve to be taken seriously in my opinion.

I have written an article on the origin of the Staunton pattern chess pieces which is the correct and last word which needs to be said on that.

The Edel family of woodturners in Germany had quite a lot to say about the different size of the pieces, Micharl Edel said that the tops of the pieces should slope down in size if a rule were placed along the tops of the pieces when they were in their start positions.

So it is the rooks destiny because of its position at the edge of the board to be the shortest of the main pieces. 

Very good.  Thanks.  Hey, if you've got interesting information to share, your comments are welcome.

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The rook did not eat its vegetables as a child . . .

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imsighked2 wrote:

The rook did not eat its vegetables as a child . . .

Even after its mother mentioned the starving children in Africa.

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@FBloggs thats an interesting concept about the knights and horses. Link me the thread plz?

 

@chessspy1 Although I still personally fail to see the significance of taking this topic seriously, I do respect your POV and liked your post. Your article on Staunton pattern chess pieces sounds an interesting read and it would be great if you could link me the article plz. Thnx in advance.

 

@imsighked2 I hope you learnt your lesson from this unfortunate incident and won't make same mistake as the poor Rooks. Go on then, eat your broccoli and kale grin.png 

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Simonpal19 wrote:

@FBloggs thats an interesting concept about the knights and horses. Link me the thread plz?

 

@chessspy1 Although I still personally fail to see the significance of taking this topic seriously, I do respect your POV and liked your post. Your article on Staunton pattern chess pieces sounds an interesting read and it would be great if you could link me the article plz. Thnx in advance.

 

@imsighked2 I hope you learnt your lesson from this unfortunate incident and won't make same mistake as the poor Rooks. Go on then, eat your broccoli and kale  

It was a while back and I have no idea what thread I posted that in.  But while I have you on the line, how do you do that @FBloggs link thing?  I tried to do it for the first time yesterday without success.  So I had to flip back some pages to find the guy's last post and respond to it (about something completely different).

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Oh damn!  It worked that time.  Oh now I get it.  It doesn't appear as a link until it's posted!

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 My fees for this educative tip to you is 8.9 million dollars only. No cheques, cash only! tongue.png

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Simonpal19 wrote:

Actually the King intended for the Rook to be much larger than it currently is. However, once Queen had come back from her shopping spree in the local chess village, King was dead broke and could only raise the Rook to its current height. He is willing to raise it to a real castle's height if you are willing to bear the financial burden

So it was a financial problem? Then why not make the king smaller? 

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@FortunaMajor Well, the King is actually much smaller than he seems on the board.

 

The Queen's shopping spree had broken the royal treasury to such an extent that the poor King didn't even have enough funds to buy a new pair of slippers when his old pair got worn out. Having some pity on him, the Queen donated her oldest, most worn out pair of high heel shoes to the King. Having the choice of either wearing those worn out high heel ladies shoes or to move across the board with naked feet, the King chose the former option, thus elevating his height in the process.

 

This is the actual reason why the King looks tall and at par with Queen's height! tongue.png

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Simonpal19 wrote:

 My fees for this educative tip to you is 8.9 million dollars only. No cheques, cash only! 

Isn't that included in your thread creator agent fee?

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No. That will be another 5.6 billion separately plz. Thnx for reminding me.

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No problem.  I wouldn't want to take advantage of you.

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As per Nimzovich pawns have "lust to expand" - apparently rooks do not. 

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sometimes it's all about scale and perspective

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Rooks represent chariots not castles.

Rook from the ancient Urdu word Ruch which means chariot.

Chariots were fast nimble vehicles that changed the history of warfare .

Completely unlike castles of course that couldn’t chase down a dead crow given a million years.

Let’s attack the enemy!

Right! Bring out the castles....

It is a load of crap isn’t it?

But because some Englisg guy decided chariots will become castles we just all have to accept it.

Rooks are a symbol of Brittish imeprialism, oppression and suffering.

Any chess player who thinks of a rook as a castle is basically voting for oppression and slavery.

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well its got no legs dude! it has to shuffle around on its arse. but it was a good idea to start the thread because the answer seems obvious only in hindsight, just like quantum mechanics.

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Floating-Duck wrote:

Rooks represent chariots not castles.

Rook from the ancient Urdu word Ruch which means chariot.

Chariots were fast nimble vehicles that changed the history of warfare .

Completely unlike castles of course that couldn’t chase down a dead crow given a million years.

Let’s attack the enemy!

Right! Bring out the castles....

It is a load of crap isn’t it?

But because some Englisg guy decided chariots will become castles we just all have to accept it.

Rooks are a symbol of Brittish imeprialism, oppression and suffering.

Any chess player who thinks of a rook as a castle is basically voting for oppression and slavery.

The alternative name for rook is castle.  But Floating-Duck has decreed that any player who even thinks of the rook as a castle supports oppression and slavery.  Yeah, Floating-Duck has the authority to decide such matters.  Good Lord!

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 I am not so sure about the rook being a chariot originally. Although some historians do say that the origins of chess were in a four-player game called shatranj where the moves were determined by the throw of a four-sided long die. That the pieces represent the four parts of the army of the day, this is by no means certain.

The rook was certainly shaped like a castle by 1300 in some sets at least (see Muse Cluny Paris) and took various shapes in old Russian sets.

 

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FBloggs wrote:
Floating-Duck wrote:

Rooks represent chariots not castles.

Rook from the ancient Urdu word Ruch which means chariot.

Chariots were fast nimble vehicles that changed the history of warfare .

Completely unlike castles of course that couldn’t chase down a dead crow given a million years.

Let’s attack the enemy!

Right! Bring out the castles....

It is a load of crap isn’t it?

But because some Englisg guy decided chariots will become castles we just all have to accept it.

Rooks are a symbol of Brittish imeprialism, oppression and suffering.

Any chess player who thinks of a rook as a castle is basically voting for oppression and slavery.

The alternative name for rook is castle.  But Floating-Duck has decreed that any player who even thinks of the rook as a castle supports oppression and slavery.  Yeah, Floating-Duck has the authority to decide such matters.  Good Lord!

You do not understand the power of the duck side.  I find your lack of faith disturbing.

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Well, the duck will have to exercise his power somewhere else.  wink.png