I think you need to cite more examples to support your premise. I'm not saying this is racist or not racist. It's simply a fact if you can support your facts. So please provide more examples of great Jewish Chess Players and let us decide. I do not doubt the Jewish people are talented in many ways.
Obvious plant.
In before the lock.
haha, first real funny one of those I've seen. hahaha
Fischer's father, Paul Nemenyi, was a Hungarian Jew. look at his photo:
wow.
There can be many reasons, you decide which one(s) you pick:
1. Jews have the better genes (racial superiority over non-Jews).
2. Jews raise their children diffrent than non-Jews, in a way which leads to a better brain development (social reasons).
3. Jews are the chosen people and blessed by god, as written in jewish holy books (religious reason).
4. Chess is an important part of Jewish culture, so that every child learns it at an early age (cultural reason).
5. Jews have more free time to spend for such things as chess.
6. It's all coincidence.
7. Whatever.
I admire the Jewish people in general, though there are (obviously) exceptions; most Jews I've known have been hardworking, intelligent, successful, self-sufficient. I don't understand why they have been attacked and despised so often historically. People are people man...
Let's blow it up once and for all... If one says Jews are a race separate and distinct from other people regardless of ethnic origin because of their culture then one may also state that American Blacks are a separate and distince race from African Blacks because of their culture. See how ridiculous it sounds now?
Let's blow it up once and for all... If one says Jews are a race separate and distinct from other people regardless of ethnic origin because of their culture then one may also state that American Blacks are a separate and distince race from African Blacks because of their culture. See how ridiculous it sounds now?
Yes, that would be nuts!
But, of course, that is not the claim.
what kind of rating gain can i expect if i convert to jewism?
depends.
There is one thing to understand about Judaism :
it's not only a religion, it's also a people, and a culture. So you can be an atheist, a christian or a muslim, and still be a jew.
http://forward.com/articles/155742/jews-are-a-race-genes-reveal/?p=all
Like I said back in post #69, the claim is not a cultural one.
There is one thing to understand about Judaism :
it's not only a religion, it's also a people, and a culture. So you can be an atheist, a christian or a muslim, and still be a jew.
Not exactly, but somewhat close. There is a big arguement about the definition of a jew. The well known definition today, divides into jewish people-nation and jewish religion. Of course the jewish people has something to do with the jewish religion, but a lot of jewish people today are atheist. I think when somebody for example turn himself into muslim or christian, he's not a jew anymore, mostly because he don't want it. Most people that change their religion, also don't really wanna be a part of the jewish nation.
Most jewish chess players were atheist, but it's just because they didn't really care about it, they didn't study torah and such, and prefered to invest their time in chess.
By the way, of course not all of the chess players were completley atheists, like akiva rubinstein for example.
And at last, here is the continuation of your list in the beginning:
Peter Svidler
Aron Nimzowitch
Akiba Rubinstein
Alexander Khalifman
Simon Winawer
Miguel Najdorf
Teimour Radjabov
Gregory Kadanov
And finally, yes, mr. bobby fischer was a jew, but he was a little crazy, and anti-semi, so i don't think he's a real jewish pride.
Most jewish chess players were atheist, but it's just because they didn't really care about it, they didn't study torah and such, and prefered to invest their time in chess.
Citation needed that this was the reason.
My own hypothesis is that it was because they were smarter, but I can't cite evidence for it.
I answer with a question. Why are so many Noble prize winners Jewish?
For starters, they can probably spell Nobel prize correctly.
I answer with a question. Why are so many Noble prize winners Jewish?
For starters, they can probably spell Nobel prize correctly.
Be charitable. Perhaps the poor chap was inquiring only about Nobel prize winners who were descended from nobility.
http://forward.com/articles/155742/jews-are-a-race-genes-reveal/?p=all
Like I said back in post #69, the claim is not a cultural one.
One study by one man does not a convincing argument make. I don't buy it. You're telling me that a Jew from the middle east and a Russian (Polish, Spanish fill in the ethnicity) Jew are more closly related than a Russian (Polish, Spanish fill in the ethnicity) Jew and any other Russian (Polish, Spanish fill in the ethnicity) because they both call themselves Jewish? I'm calling BS on that one.
edit: Skewed sample with an agenda.
http://forward.com/articles/155742/jews-are-a-race-genes-reveal/?p=all
Like I said back in post #69, the claim is not a cultural one.
One study by one man does not a convincing argument make. I don't buy it. You're telling me that a Jew from the middle east and a Russian (Polish, Spanish fill in the ethnicity) Jew are more closly related than a Russian (Polish, Spanish fill in the ethnicity) Jew and any other Russian (Polish, Spanish fill in the ethnicity) ? I'm calling BS on that one.
Thats what the DNA shows. I don't know why it should be that surprising given the near fanatical determination of jews over the centuries to only marry other jews. DNA does not spread through the air.
Are Muslims a separate race? How about different castes in India? There are many groups fanatical about breeding only among themselves, this does not constitute a racial divide. I'll grant that Middle Eastern Jews and other Arabic/Persian peoples may be genectically distinct, there you have millenia of division based on religion, but this does not spread out into other ethnicities due strictly to how they worship their god. It does not even make sense. Like I said ,skewed sample with an agenda.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A JEWISH RACE
http://forward.com/articles/155742/jews-are-a-race-genes-reveal/?p=all
I don't have a dog in this fight. But I look forward to your refutation.