....'cuz it's a board game. Then D&D & Magic & Checkers & Monopoly & Ouija & Twister would all hafta be admitted.
....make sense ?
Meh, slippery slope fallacy... but it does give other board games of skill leverage... and chess is really boring to watch for hours at a time. So probably it wont be an Olympic sport.
That is a ridiculous meaning for sport because then literally everything is a sport. Our conversation "can be considered a sport". Painting "can be considered a sport". Doing a scientific experiment "can be considered a sport". Digesting your last meal "can be considered a sport". Rate of decomposition after death "can be considered a sport". It's incoherent and doesn't stand up.
There are many different dictionaries and they give many different definitions. I don't like using the word "ignorant", but since you've started it what IS true that only ignorant and uneducated people consider what they read in a dictionary to be some final truth and absolute authority. Dictionaries are written based on how language is commonly used by people, not the other way around where the dictionary dictates the meaning.
The meaning of the word "sport" for thousands and thousands of years has been a physical activity. It was the original meaning and spirit of the word and that's what I will be sticking to. Pretty much the ONLY reason people started calling it a sport was because sports get special designation, time and finances, designations which were originally based partly on the idea of sport being good partially because of the physical activity. The physical activity being good for exercise, coordination, dexterity, flexibility, agility and so on. None of which are involved in a non-physical game like chess.
The idea of chess being a sport is screwball logic and used by people who want to pretend chess has all the qualities of sport when it does not.
As stated above, language is an abstract concept and not set in stone. You can call anything anything else. As stated there are some supposedly reputable people backing the idea of calling chess a sport, just don't expect that to mean everyone is going to come along and recognize it as being a sport. In my view it is a false designation and it's worse because it was manufactured through lies and has no business being called a sport.
It's okay, it doesn't take away from the game of chess that it's not a sport. Maybe it takes away from sport that chess isn't one of them. But imo it's the only sensible idea of sport.
Indeed, any activity that consists of a competitive showcase or 'game' of skill can be considered a sport. But none of the examples you mentioned qualify because they're not intently pursued as such. You see, to compute a sound meaning of "sport" today it's not enough to account only for what the activity consists of--how and why it is entertained also matters.
This type of debate could be considered a sport if it was intently entertained on a competitive basis as a game of wit or arguing skills. The same could be said for painting or scientific experiments if those were intently pursued as competitive games of their respective skills. There's nothing incoherent about the meaning I left above. It's a very rough resume, but it is sound, correct and coherent with how many relevant major institutions interpret the word "sport." Chess is a sport because people intently entertain it on a competitive basis and it requires skill.
Digestion or rate of decomposition don't qualify as sports because those are no humanly performed activities. Just natural processes.
Language is indeed abstract and not set in stone, thus, it is common practice and often necessary to rethink the meaning of certain words to accommodate for new developments in human behavior, knowledge, societal paradigms, technology, science, etc. Dictionaries have to keep up with the changes. For this very reason, it is indeed a bit limiting to regard the word of a dictionary as absolute truth. But for the purposes of this discussion, I think most people would be much more well-informed if they actually tried to check the dictionary (I assume most people aren't willing to put in the effort, or simply aren't smart enough, to actually reflect about and understand the fleeting semantic connotation of words like "sport").
There isn't always a consensus, but it's possible to agree on the soundest meaning by accounting for the reality of the time. The soundest meaning of "sport" today may not be the same it was thousands of years ago (if it was different at all) because today's world is very different. So it doesn't make sense to limit it to "physical activity" anymore; there's no reason why that should be. The main underlying premise of the word "sport" is competition, not "physical activity". The meaning of a word cannot be stuck in dated light just because you want it to be. Your feelings are irrelevant.
Up until 1948 the Arts were competed in the Olympics. There were medals in Poetry,Architecture,Painting,and Literature. It was hotly debated to allow Film to be a competition. The IOC considers chess a sport. I consider it to also be an art form. They should also include chess composition in future Olympics.
Up until 1948 the Arts were competed in the Olympics. There were medals in Poetry,Architecture,Painting,and Literature. It was hotly debated to allow Film to be a competition. The IOC considers chess a sport. I consider it to also be an art form. They should also include chess composition in future Olympics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wRwZrThGXI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur5fGSBsfq8
Yes I can;why not?
I don't dispute any of this except the last sentence "Your feelings are irrelevant.".... my feelings and those of people who use the word are the ONLY thing relevant thing to the meaning of the word. I may be only one of 3 billion people who are going to see or use the word, but my feelings on what the word "should" be are just as relevant as any other of those people. And for categorization purposes and grouping like with like, I prefer that chess is not categorized as a sport.
Please don't corrupt the meaning of my words. There's usually a whole organization and logistics involved in the recognition of an activity as a sport. It's not so simple as you make it.
And if you base your understanding of the meaning of words on your feelings... well, there isn't much we can talk about.
By the way, I'm not sure where you're basing the claim that the word had a specific connotation with physical activity thousands of years ago... Maybe it would help to check the etymology of "sport." The Wikipedia article for "sport" already accounts for most of this discussion we're having. Not a difficult read.
Well actually sometimes one gets the impression that if it weren't for the last minute nothing would get done.
LOL
That was a funny reaction. If I misinterpreted your statements, it should be easy to clarify without getting riled up.
I'm not familiar with Quine's work. Is that where you're coming from? Word and Object seems to make a couple of interesting points about the behavioral assimilation of language and meaning.... ok. Cannot comment on that. Doesn't seem reasonable to expect people to be acquainted with particular philosophical views on language or the emergence of meaning, nor to be able to decipher them from your previous text.
If what you were trying to say was that people assimilate the language by associating meanings to 'feelings' on a pseudo-instinctual level, I can see how that might be the hypothetical case. But it's just hypothetical... Nevertheless, it does look like humans have the ability to override this sort of internal bias by consciously applying new data to update past 'references'. So I can't see why someone would be reluctant upon a sound opportunity to do so.
If this is not at all what you were talking about, feel free to clarify.
One could say that beliefs emerge from 'emotionally imprinted data'. I'm not sure that meanings can be treated or classified as beliefs. Or maybe they are 'malleable beliefs', not 'core beliefs'.
When a sport gets into the olympiad it gets contaminated with doping.
When a sport gets into the olympiad it gets contaminated with doping.
....'cuz it's a board game. Then D&D & Magic & Checkers & Monopoly & Ouija & Twister would all hafta be admitted.
....make sense ?
Um no..
What the's problem in admitting D&D & Magic & Checkers & Monopoly & Ouija & Twister to the Olympics?
Twister would be hilarious....naked ! They'd hafta paintcher flag on your cheeks 
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What kind of doping that will come I dont know. Computerassistance is already a dopingproblem in chess. Maybe adrenaline? I had adrenalinekick once, when I got hit by a car. My mental state altered. I became extremely calm, and got a very clear view of the situation. It also felt like time went into slow motion. And I became totally boss. Dictator.
Bishop wants to unzip that stuff right there.
....'cuz it's a board game. Then D&D & Magic & Checkers & Monopoly & Ouija & Twister would all hafta be admitted.
....make sense ?
Um no..
What the's problem in admitting D&D & Magic & Checkers & Monopoly & Ouija & Twister to the Olympics?