Why not publicly announce who the idiots are?

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cigoL

As I understand it we are not supposed to complain publicly in the forums about the "idiots" here on Chess.com. Why exactly is that? I think it would be a good idea, as long as it's done in a proper tone. This way other players would know who to avoid. 

I'm raising this issue, since I'm currently involved in a tournament with clearly stated rules about not playing 2. Nf3. It's even in the title of the tournament name. Still, some players play 2. Nf3 (which is against the premise of the tournament, a tournament they themselves decided to join). This, of course, spoils it for everyone else. Luckily some players who played 2. Nf3 have resigned, but others keep playing, even when politely asked many times to resign. 

I think the only right thing to do here would be to let the community know who these players are, so it becomes easier for all the good people on this site (the vast majority) to avoid these "rotten eggs". 

In one of my games in this tournament, I've asked my opponent to resign. He keeps playing, although I have simply pushed my h-pawn across the board, one step at the time, clearly refusing to take part in this game (as it doesn't agree with the rules of the tournament). To no avail.

I think we need to find a solution once and for all. Maybe a point system or something, so people who show poor sportsmanship in games, and poor behavior in the forums could be "marked". Then every player could decide to set a threshold of some sort, and all the players rated below this threshold wouldn't show in the forums, and no games against these players would be started. With such a threshold, set individually by every user, the ones who doesn't like to neglect other members (no matter how poor their behavior might be) could simply disable this feature. 

What do you guys think?

TheGrobe

I'm against the idea of simply naming and shaming people, but I do support a more formalized (and anonymized) feedback system both for the community's assessment of quality of threads and individual posts and also for sportsmanship and general rudeness/politeness in interacting with others everywhere on the site.

Ideally these ratings could be used to provide each member the ability to dial in to their particular tolerance level and to automatically avoid or have hidden anything (content, games etc.) that falls below it.

cigoL

Yes, I think you are you, TheGlobe. No need to publicly name people, if there was a system in place. But there isn't, so until then, I think there should maybe be a thread in the forums, in which we could write the names of the "rotten eggs" - without a bunch of rude words, but simply a fair and unbiased statement explaining why we think they deserve to be on this list.

cigoL

It's weird. In the game I mentioned earlier, I've just hanged a Rook, and still my opponent keeps playing. I really wonder what he gains from this? Yes, he will win the game for sure, but where's the fun? Where's the challenge? People are weird.

kco

welcome to the internet.

ivandh

Because too many of us would be on that list.

kco

Like us !

cigoL

I don't think so, ivandh. I've only come across a handful or so people I would place on such a list, out of hundreds I've either played against, or interacted with in the forums. 

ivandh

You must not know me very well then.

theoreticalboy

What, so every time we think about starting a game we have to run to this forum thread to check if our potential opponent is listed?  Yeah, I'm all about wasting my time to prevent wasting my time.

TheGrobe
cigoL wrote:

I don't think so, ivandh. I've only come across a handful or so people I would place on such a list, out of hundreds I've either played against, or interacted with in the forums. 


Bear in mind that we'll also need a list for those that abuse the list. 

cigoL

You don't have to.

TheGrobe

Bold and italics?

That's it, you're going on my list.

cigoL
TheGrobe wrote:
cigoL wrote:

I don't think so, ivandh. I've only come across a handful or so people I would place on such a list, out of hundreds I've either played against, or interacted with in the forums. 


Bear in mind that we'll also need a list for those that abuse the list. 


You're right. I'm an idealist. I forget some would even do that! Forget it, it wouldn't work, as long as the "idiots" are around - and they are. I guess the only solution is making my own site, with membership being on invite only.

theoreticalboy

Well that's why not.  Nobody is going to use it as anything more significant than a means to griping in public about people that have annoyed them.

B_Cuzican
ivandh wrote:

You must not know me very well then.


+1

cigoL

I'm beginning to sympathize with the idea of genocide. Surprised

theoreticalboy
TheGrobe wrote:

Bold and italics?

That's it, you're going on my list.


Don't forget he spelled your name wrong in post #3 Tongue out

Oh, and I wouldn't be underlining any more conjunctions, if you know what's good for you.

TheGrobe
cigoL wrote:

I'm beginning to sympathize with the idea of genocide. 


Wow, and this makes me wonder if eugenics doesn't have it's place.

theoreticalboy
cigoL wrote:

I'm beginning to sympathize with the idea of genocide. 


Uhhh, this is a pretty big jump, even by internet standards.