Will computers ever solve chess?

Although it is a universal question, you’re not supposed to feel in any way. There are no blueprints of behavior.

  ‘Nice’ or ‘nasty’ are relative to one’s expectations. A pat on the shoulder might be considered ‘nice’, yet it may be the worst thing it could happen to someone , for it encourages comfort and indolence. 

 That’s why seeing the whole picture is important. But we are only concerned with our little corner.p, and so the whole picture is just a meaningless concept.

Also, ‘enlarging one’s POV’ is meaningless, as it’s always limited.

Best thing to do with a POV, which is an opinion, always limited to one’s narrow, personal background, is to drop it. 

Not fighting others is not enough. 

Not fighting yourself is the key to not fighting others. That is a good place to begin. And what are we fighting others for anyway? A few ideas we get ourselves attached to? 

Ok, but in the context of the last few posts it there are other meanings to me calling you nice, such as I'm not eager to be antagonistic.

And it may sound nice to say have no point of view, but a rose by any other name... i.e. no matter how you conceptualize it or what you want to call it, it is what it is.

"what are we fighting others for anyway"

I guess generally people want others to agree with them / the world to change for them.

So, you know, a person will decide everyone else is wrong, or that the world is crazy (not themselves), or simplify issues to involve only the right side and the wrong side.

So yeah, it makes sense to focus on yourself, if only for practical reasons. Although sometimes the world is legitimately screwed up. Probably part of being realistic means to accept some level of suffering.

  Are you saying that it’s not possible to not have a point of view?

Yeah, although you may mean POV differently.

I mean it more as a mind can't step outside of itself. Whatever experiences, logic, frameworks, etc you use, you're bound by them. Even having no opinion is a particular way of thinking. That's what I mean.

  Is there a separation between ‘the rest of the world’ and oneself? On the surface we are different: different likes, dislikes, passions, opinions.

  But if one gets deeper into oneself there are no differences at all. Which means what?

Now that's interesting. Hmm.

I guess you mean to change the world you start with yourself... but still, the fact I am, or may be, thinking of myself as separate from the world. That would certainly be part of the problem and something I would fix by fixing myself. That's very interesting.

  An opinion is a judgment about a fact. They are two different things, the fact and a post or pre-judgment.

  Now, expressing a fact using words, without judging the fact one way or another, is not an opinion, although thinking takes place.

  As for one not being able to get out of one’s mind, who or what is that which is trying or not to get outside of oneself? 

Well, it sounds nice to say we can entertain facts within our mind without judgement, but then what's the point of having a mind in the first place? In any case, that's not possible.

Disconnecting the experience of existing from our reaction to it is a calming idea. Probably some good meditation in there or something. Very practical, and I like that you seem to be offering practical guidance, but I'm not sure there's anything more to it than that. Hmm.

"Who or what is that which is trying or not to get outside of oneself?"
Yeah, consciousness is an intractable problem. Like the eye trying to observe itself sort of paradox.

Hmm, maybe you logged off for now.

Well it was a fun conversation, you should post in the forums more often 

empathy is natural to most. Even dogs usually have this. Not so sure about cats...

Hey btickler, why is your mouth so brown? HAHAHAHAHA

Do you somehow believe that these exchanges make *me* look bad?  Get thee to chesskids.com.

  Wanting to change the world is the wrong place to start. Why do I want to change the world? So I can feel good about myself: I’m an important person, I saved the world, me, me, me. Which is the very pattern that needs change. 

 I don’t want to change the world. I don’t even wantt to change myself. I just want to understand. That would be the right place to start. 

  Actually I never log off, but the system logs me off periodically. Sometimes things must be done so one must be off...

 Fun is the last thing I want from a convo.

 I say it is possible for judgment to end. But first look at how he mind is working: an image comes to mind, then what happens? That image is judged according to certain preexisting standards, which vary all the time: ‘good’, ‘bad’, ‘ one likes it’, or ‘one dislikes it’. Now if you observe further, you have two options: you can stay with the initial image, pushing the judgment away—but that obscures the ‘pusher’, so it creates other problems. Or you can pursue the new image, which is the judgment. Then you will see that the judgment is followed by another judgment, ‘good’, ‘bad’, ‘dislike’ or ‘like’. Pursuing this new judgment is encountered by yet another judgment and so on. Is there an end? Not quite, but at least you realize how judgment is embedded in our thinking patterns, which gives one their personal, hidden ( even from themselves ) agenda.

 Judgment is there, deeper than a simple resolution, ‘I won’t judge’. It is still there, running at all levels. Of course, choosing a red Lambo over a white Mercedes is a judgment which creates no conflict, in itself. The problems appear when one identifies with a group of people driving a Mercedes over another one that drives a Lambo, or an old Dodge for that matter.

 Constantly judging according to some acquired petty standards, which change according to the environment. 

 As for who’s trying to get outside of oneself, one can only find out if their mind is quiet. In stillness the answer to that question is obvious.