Will computers ever solve chess?

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A nobody who pastes Scientology dogma.

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Scientology is obviously not saying what I’m saying. Secondly, it’s only a dogma if you’re not interested in solving the psychological problems of man. When you are free of those problems you can see for yourself. But until man is free of fear, violence, hate and any form of compulsion, his view is bound to remain distorted.

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With over 1 billion games a year played at chess.com and adding other sites and anywhere else chess is played. The perfect match has already been played!

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Yes.

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SantaCruz2017 wrote:

With over 1 billion games a year played at chess.com and adding other sites and anywhere else chess is played. The perfect match has already been played!

What was the result?

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Probably a draw.

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SantaCruz2017 wrote:

With over 1 billion games a year played at chess.com and adding other sites and anywhere else chess is played. The perfect match has already been played!

1 billion games is not even a drop in the ocean of possible chess games

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Titled_Patzer wrote:

Checkers 'solved' after years of number crunching. The ancient game of checkers(or draughts) has been pronounced dead. The game was killed by the publication of a mathematical proof showing that draughts always results in a draw when neither player makes a mistake.

Welcome to 200+ pages ago

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Will you ever become intelligent?

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btickler wrote:
SantaCruz2017 wrote:

With over 1 billion games a year played at chess.com and adding other sites and anywhere else chess is played. The perfect match has already been played!

1 billion games is not even a drop in the ocean of possible chess games

Well there are really possibly 10 Billion played in a year so 100 years that could be 1 Trillion.

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i would say this is a perfect game as white. I have won this way 5 times in my life. 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d55. exd5 Nxd5 6. Nxf7 Kxf7 7. Qf3+ Ke68. Nc3 Nb4 9. a3 Nxc2+ 10. Kd1 Nxa111. Bxd5+ Kd6 12. Qf7 Qd7 13. Ne4#

This as Black. I have won this way a dozen. times. 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc55. Nxf7 Bxf2+ 6. Kxf2 Nxe4+ 7. Ke3 Qh48. Nxh8 Qf4+ 9. Kd3 Nb4+ 10. Ke2 Qf2# 

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SantaCruz2017 wrote:
btickler wrote:
SantaCruz2017 wrote:

With over 1 billion games a year played at chess.com and adding other sites and anywhere else chess is played. The perfect match has already been played!

1 billion games is not even a drop in the ocean of possible chess games

Well there are really possibly 10 Billion played in a year so 100 years that could be 1 Trillion.

Gee, a trillion, huh?

There are over a trillion * a trillion * a trillion * a trillion * a trillion * a trillion * a trillion * a trillion possible chess games.  Maybe you should actually read the thread.

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SpiderUnicorn wrote:

Don't worry though once chess is solved we can turn to Go.

It's a great game for people.

And far more complex than chess, so much harder to solve

  Google’s engine beat the Go World Champion as well. Even though it relies less on calculations and more on intuition.

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btickler wrote:
SantaCruz2017 wrote:
btickler wrote:
SantaCruz2017 wrote:

With over 1 billion games a year played at chess.com and adding other sites and anywhere else chess is played. The perfect match has already been played!

1 billion games is not even a drop in the ocean of possible chess games

Well there are really possibly 10 Billion played in a year so 100 years that could be 1 Trillion.

Gee, a trillion, huh?

There are over a trillion * a trillion * a trillion * a trillion * a trillion * a trillion * a trillion * a trillion possible chess games.  Maybe you should actually read the thread.

There are more than 1 novemtrigintillion possible chess games?

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Trexler3241 wrote:

There are more than 1 novemtrigintillion possible chess games?

10^120 possible chess games, 10^46.7 chess positions.

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Just because a lot of games of chess are being played doesn't mean new positions are being created. People are playing millions of games of tic tac toe and checkers but they're all the same moves as before. Playing Tactics, a position might have 15 pieces on the board doesn't mean there are a lot of moves. The fact is that there is one correct move and many incorrect moves.  

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Maybe in 10000 

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s23bog wrote:

How would you present a case to an artificial intelligence (existing, or not) to convince it to solve chess?

 

  Why? Does it have other, more important things to do?! Like answering the question: ‘Who am I?’

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s23bog wrote:

There is a very good chance that it would decide to lie, and tell you it had solved chess, but that, in reality, it just made a guess like some humans are doing, here.

Hey ! Made my laugh for the day. 

As Hal decided to lie in 2001, never can trust AI !!! Who can ever know if a computer program is telling the truth ? Linked together and one day Rule the Earth !

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  Once an AI starts really deciding for its own, any rules we have set down for them go out the window.

 

That will never happen, a machine will always do what it was programmed to do, just like humans. That is if one understands that there’s no such thing as a decision-making process. It’s a random process, based on whatever image is deemed predominant in the brain at any given moment.

  With a machine, this process can be controlled or random, in the case of the so-called AI. Humans can use something machines will never have: attention, in which case the way of operating in daily life changes. Until then, the brain is just as conditioned as a computer.

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