Will computers ever solve chess?

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You can't play the London system in 960 (except once in 960 games, when you happen to get the usual starting position).

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Elroch wrote:

You can't play the London system in 960 (except once in 960 games, when you happen to get the usual starting position).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB-CP4OyJ8I

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He can call it a London system, but with almost every piece on a different square to the London system it's a very loose use of the term!

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CAN you get the normal position in 960?
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I think there will be a computer in the future that has stored all the possible moves in chess, so it will always win as white, no matter what.

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chess player especially from usa are noob. they use computer to play online.

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AlphaZeroDark30 wrote:
Elroch wrote:

You can't play the London system in 960 (except once in 960 games, when you happen to get the usual starting position).

London System players can find a way to play the system even in Game of Thrones.

@AlphaZeroDark30 - agree! wink.png

 
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Jagadish03 is correct; the game has been and always will be a human player against another human player.  The real effect of the computer on this relationship is the fine tuning of opening lines, the first 15-20 moves.  Weaker lines are being confirmed  eliminated or improved.  The weaker player with a good repertoire and good memory will make fewer mistakes but will still lose in the middle game.  The stronger players will avoid weaker opening lines and will draw more often when they are at  equal playing ability.  An increase in drawn games is and will continue to be apparent at the Grand Master level.

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MrEdCollins wrote:
ptd570 wrote:

Will there ever be a computer strong enough to solve chess to the point where white uses its half tempo advantage to always beat black no matter what moves black plays (in otherwords the same computer can never win with black even after a thousand random games against itself)

You're assuming chess is a first-player win.  I, for one, believe chess is a draw with perfect play on both sides.

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SirGwynn wrote:

Jagadish03 is correct; the game has been and always will be a human player against another human player.  

Since your first sentence is incorrect, it's kind of pointless to answer the rest.  In any case, that is not the discussion here.  When your teacher gives you a "2 trains leave the station" word problem, do you tell them that ultimately trains are about human relationships and emotional distance?  Because it's the same form of non-sequitur...

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Yes.

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hitthepin wrote:
CAN you get the normal position in 960?

Yes, but it only happens 1 in 960 games. It would make sense to exclude it but if any software does this I have not heard about it.

Also note that if classical chess was excluded, it would be "959 Chess".

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It seems that some on this blog may suffer a deficit of respect for other's opinions and may even have difficulty with relationships and emotional distance in their own life.

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We can wait the Mars players to come and play chess with us

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SirGwynn wrote:

It seems that some on this blog may suffer a deficit of respect for other's opinions and may even have difficulty with relationships and emotional distance in their own life.

You have quite an imagination, for somebody that can only conceive of chess being a game that can be played by two human players...

P.S.  This isn't a blog.

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Eventually.

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9497010838 wrote:
Depends upon your definition of “chess”

If you define chess as a dynamic sculpture just sitting there to be admired, yes. It’s almost completely solved already.

But if chess is a verb, not a sculpture, involving human interaction. No. It will never be solved.

PEACE!

But that depends on what the definition of "is" is.

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O……
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Yes.

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I was thinking that it might be interesting to program these computers so that a draw isn't an option. It would be interesting to see how differently the games are played when computers are going for a win not a draw.