Will Fischer Random chess now also become more popular and accepted on all levels?
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World champions playing it will make it more popular. It may be the answer to those concerns about the draw death and opening theory memorization if classical chess.
I actually want Chess 960 to become more popular.
Even normal chess should become more popular.
I support all forms and variants of chess.
Three craze attacking games, sacrifizes kind of half of his pieces for a mate with the other half.
freenelsonmandela wrote:
Fischer random shows who really is the better player by removing preparation with engines.
Totally agree with the honourable members sentiment . . .
I think it's good that they are playing more variants. Fischer random is certainly nice and I hope its popularity grows. It would be nice to see other variants being introduced, like Capablanca chess.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capablanca_Chess
I think it will eventually replace the standard, and become the standard. It may take a century or more to do this.
From my limited understanding of chess history, the current chess was a variant called Mad Queen Chess. It developed about 500 years ago from a form of chess where the queen was the weakest piece moving only one square diagonally. It is my understanding that it was so popular that it took only about 25 years to become the de facto standard. Back then there was no internet or other means of communication.
It has already been about 25 years since Fischer first introduced his variant. It’s often called 960 now days.
Getting it accepted as the de facto standard requires increasing awareness and popularity. Certainly having FIDE acceptance and top level players playing it for top prize money will indeed increase the awareness, popularity and eventually the acceptance as the standard and not just a variant.
From my limited understanding of chess history, the current chess was a variant called Mad Queen Chess. It developed about 500 years ago from a form of chess where the queen was the weakest piece moving only one square diagonally. It is my understanding that it was so popular that it took only about 25 years to become the de facto standard. Back then there was no internet or other means of communication.
It has already been about 25 years since Fischer first introduced his variant. It’s often called 960 now days.
Getting it accepted as the de facto standard requires increasing awareness and popularity. Certainly having FIDE acceptance and top level players playing it for top prize money will indeed increase the awareness, popularity and eventually the acceptance as the standard and not just a variant.
endgame347 wrote:
evert823 wrote:
It's great to watch the World Fischer Random Chess Championship and great games taking place there. But I wonder if or when this variant will become a more regular part of chess on all levels. In my town there is a chess club devoted to Fischer Random, organizing a competition and a yearly tournament, but that is still really an exception.
do you play FR ?
Yes, I avoid FIDE chess.
endgame347 wrote:
evert823 wrote:
endgame347 wrote:
evert823 wrote:
It's great to watch the World Fischer Random Chess Championship and great games taking place there. But I wonder if or when this variant will become a more regular part of chess on all levels. In my town there is a chess club devoted to Fischer Random, organizing a competition and a yearly tournament, but that is still really an exception.
do you play FR ?
Yes, I avoid FIDE chess.
how do you find it?- can you post a game ?
Hey endgame do you know you can play 960 here in live or daily chess?
And you can look through Evert823's game history to see a bunch of his 960 games.
I think chess rush.......
It is simply a variant for a small minority. Roaming through the chess scene day in - day out: no one (some single-digit percect) is really interested.
BL4D3RUNN3R wrote:
It is simply a variant for a small minority. Roaming through the chess scene day in - day out: no one (some single-digit percect) is really interested.
It would be interesting to know how much 960 is being played on chess.com.
But the question is, will it become more popular, and I think the answer is yes! People who are not familiar with it view it as some kind of oddball game that isn't chess. This WC tournament, and the 960 tournament they now have in St. Louis, and future tournaments will get more and more people to see that it isn't oddball, it is just chess, and is not only equivalent in most ways, but is superior in very important ways.
Magnus said it himself. Players love it. Kasparov loves it. Magnus loves it. It is supported by most of the top players in the world. There is no stopping it.
And the reason it will get more popular is obvious just by looking at the 960 World Championship tournament. It was exciting, and the play was brilliant. Too often in classical matches what you get is boring.
I say more Fischer random tournaments are coming and that is great! I think it should also be used in combination with standard chess in some tournaments, and classical time control 960 would also be a better method of tie break than rapid or blitz in classical tournaments.
No. If So prevails, the game must be flawed.
gambitattax wrote:
I actually want Chess 960 to become more popular.
It is vastly superior to Fischer Random.
Ziryab wrote:
gambitattax wrote:
I actually want Chess 960 to become more popular.
It is vastly superior to Fischer Random.
I thought it was the same. Is there a difference?
How can the game be flawed? There is no hocus pocus the starting position is there for everyone to see.
120 odd people play live 960 tournaments here twice a day.
tompressing wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
gambitattax wrote:
I actually want Chess 960 to become more popular.
It is vastly superior to Fischer Random.
I thought it was the same. Is there a difference?
Huge difference. One name acknowledges the math. The other celebrates a former World Champion when he wasn't thinking clearly, perpetuating his mistake.
ChessVesuvius wrote:
Take take away opening theory, and Carlsen loses. He is not a natural player.
Not a natural player?
The only way chess will grow is in two areas. The first is bullet, the games are quick which makes them perfect for a spectator sport and will fit easily with a broadcast schedule and commercial breaks. 1 or 2 minute games would be perfect.
the other is chess 960, people are extremely tired of tournaments full of draws because of opening memorization. The games are stale, the sponsors aren’t going to fork over money to have the audience put to sleep with the same opening played day in day out, 960 will fix that part and make for much livelier games.
Just look how magnus got exposed without his vast knowledge of opening theory.
Magnus didn't get exposed. He is a great chess player and a great 960 player. Before this Tournaments there have been a lot of not sanctioned 960 Tournaments. Hikaru was considered the best by way of his past performance, and he truly is also a great 960 player who beat Wesley earlier in this Tournament.
In last year's unofficial 960 championship Carlsen beat Nakamura. A couple if days ago, Carlsen beat Caruana.
Carlsen is a great 960 player. Wesley was awesome and earned the championship. Carlsen was not exposed. That's just a ridiculous thing to say.
It's great to watch the World Fischer Random Chess Championship and great games taking place there. But I wonder if or when this variant will become a more regular part of chess on all levels. In my town there is a chess club devoted to Fischer Random, organizing a competition and a yearly tournament, but that is still really an exception.