Will magnus become the next crazy fischer????

I'm a beyond help bunny :-(

What is this Magnus Fischer thing?

Both were great players.

Stupid dichotomy?

Chess has had its share of nuts and Fischer was one.  But for every Morphy or Fischer, there have always been many reasonably normal people among the best in the world.  I say reasonably because you've got to allow for some eccentricities among artists, scientists and chess masters.  Carlsen might well be a tad eccentric but that goes with the territory.  I would put him in the normal category.  Fischer, on the other hand, wasn't merely eccentric; he was mad (and I don't mean angry although he was angry too).

 Then I'll just call you stupid.  ;-)

Some call Fischer a bigot?

What a joke! Do they ever read their posts?

I admire Carlsen, or any great player.

The new bigots are counter-productive. They are perpetuating his fame with all their hate-filled threads.

And Carlsen, good as he is, may soon lose his title, going by what is happening in St Louis.

Good on him if he wins from there, but the old and still good player Anand is leading along with MVL.

Better for the Fischer haters to back Kasparov, if they must have a hero. Carlsen has a lot of current rivals on his heels, including Wei Yi, and Kurjakin, who nearly toppled him.  

I like starting fights?  You commented on my post -- not vice versa.  Good grief!  What a drama queen!

Fischer was my favorite player before and after he won the championship.  Although he disappointed me and millions of others by returning the title to the Soviets by refusing to defend it, I never hated the man.  He was quite eccentric during his playing years but he went completely off the rails in his later years.  He was virulently anti-Semitic and anti-American.  He rejoiced that America was attacked on 9-11.  One doesn't have to be a Fischer hater to acknowledge he was a very disturbed person.

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"One doesn't have to be a Fischer hater to acknowledge he was a very disturbed person."

Me neither. But, he being so only gives reason to quietly rejoice that most of us do not have the same demons.  

But, Iceland adopted him, and they are not crazy, but they had some compassion and gratitude for what he gave them.

Morphy is not universally revered either.

If it is good enough for a great man like Kasparov to pay respect to Fischer, it is good enough for me.

RIP, Mr. Fischer!

How would you have reacted if the FBI spied you since you were a kid, some nutjob Americans clinged to your VERY OWN sucess and the jews claimed you were a jew? I would have also LOST my mind.

which is it?  as hard & 5-10x as hard are very different things.   i'm asking as given fischer was all about chess, training harder than him would be really impressive even if results differ.

I get tired of snowflakes whining about "haters."  If you say anything that offends them, which is almost impossible to avoid, they consider you a hater.  What if I just consider them idiots?  Hate is a strong emotion.  I don't hate anyone I couldn't care less about.

Carlsen is 0.5 from first in an ongoing tournament, and people tend to be a bit fast to see him losing the title every time he doesn't lead from the start to the finish. I think he played rather well, and got winning positions against MVL, Naka and was very close also against Anand, apart from beating So and Karjakin. This time he missed a few wins, but such things happen.

As for "Fischer haters" being better off backing Kasparov than Carlsen, I'm not sure why or what "hating Fischer" refers to, but in these threads anyone not seeing Fischer as one of a kind and the greatest ever without comparison tends to be called a Fischer hater once in a while :-)

I think I am cooler than the both of them combined soooooooo YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

If a person can make it to ~30 without serious mental illness, then they're (more or less) safe until late age.

Carlsen is already 28.

Fischer was showing signs of mental illness from early on.

Robert J. Fischer, of course, was far from the only chess player to suffer from mental illness later in life.

At the moment, none of the grandmasters I've heard of shows any particular signs of an impending mental breakdown. We can only hope that for whatever reason, chess players are under less mental strain these days.

If one wished to strain, one could cite a few players.

Garry Kasparov - he had trouble believing that Deep Blue beat him fair and square. But he has a balanced life outside of chess. Maybe trying to take on Vladimir Putin was crazy, but not in a bad way.

Josh Waitzkin - he quit chess just when he was getting somewhere! Well, being one chess master among many thousands is not as useful as being the World Champion of Taekwondo. So his decision was rational, and perhaps he left chess just in time.

Often, the chess players whose lives ended in madness did so because circumstances brought them to poverty - Steinitz as well as Fischer, for example. Today, even if you can't write chess books as well as Eric Schiller, you can have a YouTube channel?

Is it a coincidence that chess players stopped going crazy about the time personal computers got really good at chess?

Chess engines and databases help GMs a lot. They don't need to reinvent the wheel. (novelties, analysis, etc). Result, less GMs get crazy including Carlsens.

Is it true fischer was a jew????? From the reaserch i think he has jewish bloodlines..