Worlds shortest legal draw !

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watcha

May be this one would do it:

Shamandalie1234
watcha wrote:

I wonder if it is possible to create a stalemate position in which both sides have all their original pieces (no promoted pawns).

12 moves.



Scottrf
watcha wrote:

May be this one would do it:

 

Well, that's impossible.

TheR-tist
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TheR-tist
Shamandalie1234 wrote:
watcha wrote:

I wonder if it is possible to create a stalemate position in which both sides have all their original pieces (no promoted pawns).

12 moves.
 



Looks like they messed around and agreed to make a draw.

Hahaha.

watcha

@FishGY: There are captures in this game. This is not fair.

chessmaster102
FishGY wrote:

Surely a draw can be claimed on the 4th move:

 



sorry but your wrong :) I already agreed with Dietmar that I meant on the borad draws not draws by agreement and no its not 4th but 5th move.

ThrillerFan

The Shortest "legal" draw is 1 move by each player.  For a game to be official, each player has to have made 1 move, otherwise, it's a forfeiture.

Here's a prime example of the shortest legal draw (and yes, this actually happened):

Scottrf

Didn't know you were such a coward Thriller!

chessmaster102
ThrillerFan wrote:

The Shortest "legal" draw is 1 move by each player.  For a game to be official, each player has to have made 1 move, otherwise, it's a forfeiture.

Here's a prime example of the shortest legal draw (and yes, this actually happened):

 

read the COMMENTS draws by agreement where not what I meant my gosh 

chessmaster102
FishGY wrote:

But the position is repeated for the third time on the 4th move, the starting position is repeated, that's what counts!

nope only the 2nd time

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LoekBergman

Those German chess masters knew their history. Here is the original game, which is slightly different and not a game between two chess players, but a beautiful composition of who else then Sam Loyd:



LoekBergman

@FishGY: this was the third time you repeated yourself! Cool

LoekBergman

Ok, you have got it. What you said is right nor wrong.

chessmaster102
real_tzs

@chessmaster102:

We have the starting position.


1.Nf3 Nf6

2.Ng1 Ng6

We are back at the starting postion.


3.Nf3 Nf6

4.Ng1 Ng8

We are back at the starting position for the third time. The same player was on the move all three times, castling rights were the same, and en passant opportunities were the same. The draw may be claimed.

MrDamonSmith

White plays 1. e4 and says "Hey, wanna draw?" Then black thinks for half a second and responds "yeah sure. We can split the prize money and go get drunk, wadya say?" White says "alright, lets get outta here."

That's the shortest legal draw.

LoekBergman

@MrDamonSmith: that depends where you play. There is the Sofia/Corsica rule that demands that players will not make a draw before move 30. In those tournaments is your game illegal.