Would you choose one extra rook in the beginning or 5 pawns of the beginning of a chess game?

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llama44

Both are easily winning.

With the extra rook it would mostly be in the way, so I'd sacrifice it really early for a piece or two pawns.

With 5 extra pawns the win would also be really easy, but it would take more moves.

llama44

Lets make it like crazyhouse. One player has a rook he can place, and the other player has 5 pawns.

BUT the pawns can only be placed on one of your first 3 ranks, and the rook must be placed on the last rank.

That way your extra pieces are very valuable without getting in the way of other pieces (and unlike crazyhouse you can't use them for insane tactics).

I have to say in that case I'm leaning towards the 5 pawns.

I think the rook would be pretty easily winning if you reached some kind of late mid game or endgame, but with extra pawns you have chances of keeping your structure perfect, so you'll dominate the first few phases of the game... so the side with the extra rook may never get chance.

The exception is probably if the extra rook side infiltrated and got some early tactics. They'd have to win like that. But wait around too long and you'll be steamrolled.

Prometheus_Fuschs

How are the pawns arranged?

Strangemover
Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:

How are the pawns arranged?

Quintupled pawns. 

Prometheus_Fuschs

Then I choose rook

MorphysMayhem
Sred wrote:
Morphys-Revenge wrote:

I mean c'mon. Two connected passed pawns are often worth aa rook. So five????

But you won't get 2 connected passed pawns.

No, I might get three even. it would be a massacre. 

DynamicQueen

i also choose rook

i HATE doubled pawns, even more hate tripled pawns, super hate quadrupled pawns, mega hate quintupled

of course on My side

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lol

 

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rook for me

Sred

If I'm White, I'll be happy with just 2 extra pawns, if I can place them where I want.

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DynamicQueen

Sred wrote:

...if I can place them where i want. but will black let you? also Rahul, do you put the pawns where you want, or do you put the pawns in front of the pawns

hmmmmm........

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lfPatriotGames

I must be not understanding something. The  question was 5 extra pawns or a rook at the beginning of the game. To me, it's not even close. Definitely the 5 extra pawns. At the beginning of the game, a rook is worthless anyway, it cant move. It's value only comes later, after many of the pawns have done their job.  Imagine the possibilities of 5 extra pawns out front at the beginning of the game. 

Cant a computer simulate that? One side gets 5 extra pawns, the other side an extra rook, probably on a2 or h7.

IwhoopDeafPeople

To be honest, you all are power-infested not mental filled, 5 pawns

more defense

more chances to become queen

would you take a queen over a rook?

It's a no brainer yall, 5 extra pawns. 

IwhoopDeafPeople

Lets make it like crazyhouse. One player has a rook he can place, and the other player has 5 pawns.

BUT the pawns can only be placed on one of your first 3 ranks, and the rook must be placed on the last rank.

That way your extra pieces are very valuable without getting in the way of other pieces (and unlike crazyhouse you can't use them for insane tactics).

I have to say in that case I'm leaning towards the 5 pawns.

I think the rook would be pretty easily winning if you reached some kind of late mid game or endgame, but with extra pawns you have chances of keeping your structure perfect, so you'll dominate the first few phases of the game... so the side with the extra rook may never get chance.

The exception is probably if the extra rook side infiltrated and got some early tactics. They'd have to win like that. But wait around too long and you'll be steamrolled.

ok

Tja_05

Assuming the extra pawns are all on the 3rd rank, I'd select the 5 pawns. An extra rook would do no good until much later, especially against a wall of pawns. Problem is, it'd be very difficult to liquidate that wall.

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