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Ron-Weasley wrote:

Ok having read this and the other thread I found the better part of the course on some torrent sites. As my review I say its excellent material. It's on par with the convekta training software I'm using now, but in written form instead of interactive. Its quality instruction.  But being written instead of interactive it'll take 2 or 3 times longer to do the same amount of training than if you do interactive software trainers.

Which Convekta courses do you recommend?  This is appealing to me because I can do them at work (lol) more easily than reading books with a board out.

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Ron-Weasley wrote:

Ok having read this and the other thread I found the better part of the course on some torrent sites. As my review I say its excellent material. It's on par with the convekta training software I'm using now, but in written form instead of interactive. Its quality instruction.  But being written instead of interactive it'll take 2 or 3 times longer to do the same amount of training than if you do interactive software trainers.

Which Convekta courses do you recommend?  This is appealing to me because I can do them at work (lol) more easily than reading books with a board out.

Right now I'm doing Chess Guide for Club players, CT-Art for Beginners, and Thoery and Practice of Chess Endings. After I repeat all the exercizes in CT-Art for Beginners, and Chess Guide for Club Players 7 times I'll move on to something more advanced like  Chess Tactics Art for Club players and Chess guide for Intermediate players. I have a set of about 30 of their courses. The absolute beginners ones are too easy and the intermediate ones are much too hard, I just began my study program less than a month ago and I'm already making great progress. The endgame course is comprehensive, from beginner to GM level stuff. If I were studying from books it would be taking at least twice as long to do the same training because I'd constantly be setting up stuff on an analysis board.

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kponds wrote:
Ron-Weasley wrote:

Ok having read this and the other thread I found the better part of the course on some torrent sites. As my review I say its excellent material. It's on par with the convekta training software I'm using now, but in written form instead of interactive. Its quality instruction.  But being written instead of interactive it'll take 2 or 3 times longer to do the same amount of training than if you do interactive software trainers.

Which Convekta courses do you recommend?  This is appealing to me because I can do them at work (lol) more easily than reading books with a board out.


try encyclopedia of combinations, and the chess tactics for intermediate player and then ct art

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but try to get the old versions peshka ruined the software in my opinion

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TetsuoShima wrote:
kponds wrote:
Ron-Weasley wrote:

Ok having read this and the other thread I found the better part of the course on some torrent sites. As my review I say its excellent material. It's on par with the convekta training software I'm using now, but in written form instead of interactive. Its quality instruction.  But being written instead of interactive it'll take 2 or 3 times longer to do the same amount of training than if you do interactive software trainers.

Which Convekta courses do you recommend?  This is appealing to me because I can do them at work (lol) more easily than reading books with a board out.


try encyclopedia of combinations, and the chess tactics for intermediate player and then ct art

CT-Art for Beginners is not near the same level as CT-Art. I guess it was so successful they made it into 4 programs. There's CT-Art (the original), CT-Art Mating combinations, CT-Art for club players, and CT-Art for for Beginners. I'm doing the beginners one and it's all 2-3 move combinations in various motifs. I looked at CT-Art and its way too advanced for me. Hopefully in a year I'll be ready to tackle it if I make good progress in what I'm working now, but its way over my head right now.

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thats why i said ct art last

 

Anyway you  have my rating but strangely enough for me the beginners stuff and the mating stuff was  too easy.

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also i found the mating stuff annoying, because in the peshka version they only test one solution. That was for me the greatest thing about convekta that you had to solve the moves against more than 1 reply...

 

shame that kosteniuk didnt even thought about customers, i mean if you go full price with many tactics you can find in convekta and elsewere you could have at least included such stuff. But maybe she did and i already forgot.

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In the CT Art for Beginners some of the lessons are easy and some I found are holes in my knowledge and challenging for me. Decoying to key squares and decoying to attack lines is a weakness I didn't know I had and I'm eliminating it. Other than that setting opponents up for basic pins forks, skewers etc is elementary but I still think worthwhile to practice, especially since I have weaknesses in decoying at the same elementary level. You're probably a more well rounded player than I am, I just learned playing online and never studied ina  structured way until very recently, hence the major gaps in my skill.

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I have never heard of this convekta stuff but the idea seems good... Is it free/is the software downloadable or on internet/where can I find a link for the website? The idea of Yusupovs training books on the computer sound awesome. I have completed one of them, but I find that I don't really have enough time to spend around an hour on each chapter anymore

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http://youtu.be/-p3MKZzwm9U

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CT-Art has a good reputation, but it's tactics only. Yusupov looks at a much broader range of subjects. The interesting thing is that he treats endgames, openings, positional play etc in exactly the same format as tactics.

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http://youtu.be/-p3MKZzwm9U

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You won't find the Yusupov puzzles in the Convekta softwares (well, maybe some of them).

Here is the website :

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http://youtu.be/-p3MKZzwm9U

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Just thought I'd throw ChessKing into the mix.  They have six " standalone" training modules in addition to the main program.  The six cover 3 levels of tactics, endgames, openings, and strategy.  They're $25 each, but you can find them bundled together for around $100.  Interface is a little cleaner than the CT-Art.  Same kind of uncompromisingly difficult Russian school approach.  Even the mates in 1 and 2 on the first tactics DVD are a pain to find.  We live in an age where there are so many fantastic resources available to the serious (and not so serious Embarassed) chess student that it's hard to decide what to study.  The common ingredient to success is the same as it's always been: hard work.  Digital presentations just make the process a little more efficient.

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Hi Baddogno,

Never heard about this ChessKing package - do you have a link, and do you know how many exercises (approx.) there are in the package ?

edit - oh - that's the Houdini stuff - actually the puzzles are the same than in the Convekta soft. The source is the same.

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http://youtu.be/-p3MKZzwm9U

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You're probably right Hicetnunc, but the interface seems a bit less clunky.

http://chess-king.com/products/

Anyway, check it out for yourself.

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Kingpatzer wrote:

Each book is ~$30. 24 chapters, each chapter takes me 3-4  hours to get though. 

So that's roughly 100 hours of structured chess instruction for $30 from one of the world's top trainers for about $.30 an hour. 


Yeah, real rip off there . .. 

I agree you get your money's worth. 

But for those of us who are married, telling the wife you're about to spend $270.00 on chess books?

Nights will be chilly soon here in the Northeast.  Sleeping in my car will soon not be an option.

:-) 

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baddogno wrote:

Just thought I'd throw ChessKing into the mix.  They have six " standalone" training modules in addition to the main program.  The six cover 3 levels of tactics, endgames, openings, and strategy.  They're $25 each, but you can find them bundled together for around $100.  Interface is a little cleaner than the CT-Art.  Same kind of uncompromisingly difficult Russian school approach.  Even the mates in 1 and 2 on the first tactics DVD are a pain to find.  We live in an age where there are so many fantastic resources available to the serious (and not so serious ) chess student that it's hard to decide what to study.  The common ingredient to success is the same as it's always been: hard work.  Digital presentations just make the process a little more efficient.


but chessking is  really bad value , i find it really bad compared to convekta. they dont ask you for the other replies the opponent could play.

in the test mode when you got wrong, you cant look at the solution.

you cant even customize the board size and the layout. i mean for 25 bucks thats heavy, i think even when you buy the chess programm you cant change the design or board if i remember correctly.

Also many puzzles i have already seen somewere else, from convekta there a lot of puzzles. I know convekta probably is also marketing chess king, but in my  opinion the pre peshka convekta stuff is way way better than the chess king stuff....

yes the puzzles are really nice in chessking but still, i mean would it really be too bad to make a good interface???

is 25 dollars no money, that you really dont have to make a good interface???

I mean if the chessking interface is so bad, why not just buy a puzzle book???