I don't like getting death threats

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JamieDelarosa
bigpoison wrote:

Good God!  I hope not. 

"Hope not" for a report button?  Or "hope not" to dspatch the trolls.

bigpoison

No more buttons.  I really hate that facebook twitter thingy that pops up a menu that won't disappear when I, inadvertently, scroll over it.

Buttons bad.

JamieDelarosa
batgirl wrote:

He just surfaces 5 minutes later under a new account.  So until chess.com complicates the account making process and severely limits new members' posting abilities -which is something they seem most unwilling to do- deleting said acounts is spitting into the wind.

I have explained before the security we used on a site where security was paramount.

We could ban by username, email address, IP address, and hostname.  We also banned every problem proxy we encountered.

In time, the spammers, scammers, trolls, and troublemakers realized they were fighting a losing battle.

batgirl

If past experience matters, I would say that ain't happening here.

Crazychessplaya

Just do deep packet inspection on the network level and drop all packets containing "baba ji", "kala jadu", "gold medalist magician" or other nonsense even before they hit the servers.

JamieDelarosa
bigpoison wrote:

No more buttons.  I really hate that facebook twitter thingy that pops up a menu that won't disappear when I, inadvertently, scroll over it.

Buttons bad.

On another site with which I am associated, the button was located discretely in the bottom right hand corner of each page, and it was not activated by hovering your cursor over it.

JamieDelarosa
batgirl wrote:

If past experience matters, I would say that ain't happening here.

You are probably correct.  This is a profit-oriented site.  What will ultimately motivate the administration of the site is the thought that trolling equates to lost revenue.

batgirl
JamieDelarosa wrote:
batgirl wrote:

If past experience matters, I would say that ain't happening here.

You are probably correct.  This is a profit-oriented site.  What will ultimately motivate the administration of the site is the thought that trolling equates to lost revenue.

I don't want to believe that, but the complete lack of initiave in this area tells me something.... and it's most definitely NOT that nobody knows about it.

KingSullian
Irontiger wrote:
SocialPanda wrote:

Which elite players? 

I usually see at most one GM in live chess at any time.

One GM out of the existing 2,000 or so? When they live in different time zones, some don't play internet chess, etc.?

It would be pretty lucky to have one GM in live chess at all times.

DAAADAAAA

 

You Rang????Cool

 

Wait a minutes or three..did sire irontiger mean Grandmasta' as in chess..or just a plain ole grandmasta' idiot..if da' latter iz' can help..Your wish tiz' my command!!!Kiss

winerkleiner

Here's my reponse to this guy:

Re: ah huh

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nomore-games

nomore-games

6/22/14 @ 8:12 PM

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you people are sick shit. its not even real how fucking deceptive and fucked you freaks are. three fucking years lol...you obsess. and harass lol. erik is the one whos going to play for it
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Original Message by winerkleiner on 6/22/14, 8:10 PM:


What pics?  You smokin something?
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Original Message by nomore-games on 6/22/14, 8:05 PM:

those pics are me lol,, you littel dickless freak, think about that puss. you have no idea whats going to happen

HessianWarrior

Did you block him?

winerkleiner

Is this you?

null-cipher

If chess.com banned every proxy and IP address that abuse came from that would quickly eliminate legitimate users from China who must bypass the Great Firewall and other people in similar situations.  Soon all public librarys will eventually be IP banned, cafes, any public wifi.  Not to mention ligetimate users who get assigned dynamic IP addresses will accidently be banned.  Ulitimately banning a bunch of IP addresses will start killing business.

JamieDelarosa
null-cipher wrote:

If chess.com banned every proxy and IP address that abuse came from that would quickly eliminate legitimate users from China who must bypass the Great Firewall and other people in similar situations.  Soon all public librarys will eventually be IP banned, cafes, any public wifi.  Not to mention ligetimate users who get assigned dynamic IP addresses will accidently be banned.  Ulitimately banning a bunch of IP addresses will start killing business.

Not totally true.  We only banned proxies related to problem users.  Many hosts are identified by names, or other designations, suggesting it is a public resourse.  In the past we reported the exact ip address and time of the incident, and let them handle it in their end.  A public library or university does not want their facilities used for criminal activity.

If there is the will to combat people who make threats on the site, there are ways to do it effectively.

JamieDelarosa
Crazychessplaya wrote:

Just do deep packet inspection on the network level and drop all packets containing "baba ji", "kala jadu", "gold medalist magician" or other nonsense even before they hit the servers.

This is absolutely right, though I am not familiar with the term "deep packet inspection."  Thank you.

null-cipher
JamieDelarosa wrote:

Not totally true.  We only banned proxies related to problem users.  Many hosts are identified by names, or other designations, suggesting it is a public resourse.  In the past we reported the exact ip address and time of the incident, and let them handle it in their end.  A public library or university does not want their facilities used for criminal activity.

If there is the will to combat people who make threats on the site, there are ways to do it effectively.

I'm sure your site was smaller and probably not as international.  The tactics you used just don't scale well to a site the size of chess.com.  Yes, report death threats to the hosts repsonsible and let them deal with it on their end but I think some of these proxy services just won't do anything, other sorts of abuse like cheating or just being spammy will probably recieve no response at all.  There are ways to reduce abuse but blocking a bunch of IPs will hurt chess.com's business model.

RonaldJosephCote

                Hey bunny;  "they offer gold medals in magician schools??".  YES, if you can pull a rabbit out of a hat you get a gold medal.Cool     That means Bullwinkle is up for one.   "Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of this hat".

AlCzervik
tkbunny wrote:
Crazychessplaya wrote:

Just do deep packet inspection on the network level and drop all packets containing "baba ji", "kala jadu", "gold medalist magician" or other nonsense even before they hit the servers.

they offer gold medals in magician school?

I had one with this stamp on it.

Bought it from one of those passport guys, but, it disappeared.

Irontiger

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_convention#Gold_Medal_-_I.B.M.

JamieDelarosa
null-cipher wrote:
JamieDelarosa wrote:

Not totally true.  We only banned proxies related to problem users.  Many hosts are identified by names, or other designations, suggesting it is a public resourse.  In the past we reported the exact ip address and time of the incident, and let them handle it in their end.  A public library or university does not want their facilities used for criminal activity.

If there is the will to combat people who make threats on the site, there are ways to do it effectively.

I'm sure your site was smaller and probably not as international.  The tactics you used just don't scale well to a site the size of chess.com.  Yes, report death threats to the hosts repsonsible and let them deal with it on their end but I think some of these proxy services just won't do anything, other sorts of abuse like cheating or just being spammy will probably recieve no response at all.  There are ways to reduce abuse but blocking a bunch of IPs will hurt chess.com's business model.

I agree in part.  Playing host to criminals will ruin the business model too.

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