Multiple Account rules

Hi!  I have a couple of questions.

1)  When you get to a person's public profile and it says "account closed" and there is a big red circle with a slash in it, does that mean the person was caught cheating, or could the person have closed their account simply for personal reasons?

2)  If a person is caught having multiple accounts, are ALL of their accounts closed or are they allowed to keep one account?

Thank you.

If the account just says closed, it could be for different reasons but I would say the most common would likely be do to them closing the accounts themselves. If the account was closed for cheating there will be a notification on the side of the profile stating that; that is in general as I think there have been occurrences where an account closed for cheating may only look like a closed account, but in the vast majority it should be as I stated.

On the second one, I don't know for sure. I imagine some amount of discretion may come into play. If the multiple accounts were used for nefarious purposes (e.g. rating manipulation) then I would imagine both/all accounts would be closed.  If no cheating was involved, then maybe only one of the accounts would get closed, though I don't know if both would get closed or only one.

If it 'Account Closed' it could have been closed by the player or it could have been closed by staff for reasons such as multiple accounts, abusive language, etc. If they used a computer to cheat, there will be a note stating they were caught cheating and the cheater icon will appear next to their handle.

They are allowed to keep one account to my knowledge. If the account was closed for cheating, then you can see the person's profile. If they personally closed it, or it was closed due to abuse, spamming, etc, then you can't.

The big red circle with a slash through it means they could have closed there own account or it was closed for reasons other than cheating. If it was closed for cheating you would still be able to see the account, but it say off to the side "Closed for cheating, etc, etc, etc."

An account can be closed for advertising other sites on chess.com as well.  I've had my account closed multiple times because I accidentally included a URL in some of the messages that I've sent to members here.

Funny thing is, the URL I included was "chess.com" :(

Both questions were either/or questions, not yes/no questions.

I don't think his replies were serious.

Well I took them seriously!!

It is not that simple, it is a big grey area, could be either or neither. It depends on each and every offence, (paying) member, member's responce, staff's mood of the day, change in protocol bla bla bla etc. Don't wreck your brain trying to work it out, it is a game site to us and a business to the owner.

Hmmm.  There's a lot of intrigue going on at Chess.com, Janus, and not knowing facts doesn't clear things up.  I guess I will never know about some accounts/people then.

The Undead rise with divine protection!

and it can be different for the same situation and it can be the same for a different situation, a bit like politics and that's what it is.

Or you could say for each situation it's different.

Or each difference is a situation ...

it's all about numbers and due to privacy reasons you won't be informed but i am sure many of the bla bla forums will inform you but you have to read between the lines.

Your posts suggests, really outright states, you don't know legal strategy. As you pointed out "in most civil cases", however not ALL civil cases, the loser covers all legal costs. So there is a risk of having to pay ones own legal expenses even if prevailing. But that aside, the time and energy (as well as costs until the case is resolved and the judge decides who covers what legal expenses) spent to engage the case is more simply resolved by removing a cheater symbol.

What kind of a loser would sue just becuase of a cheating label? What kind of a legal system would even let such a laughable suit into court? Our legal system feels like a joke sometimes.

If I were chess.com's owner, however, I would just remove the symbol. Why would I want to waste my time dealing with such scum just so that I can say I was right?

If I were chess.com I would erase accounts way quicker, I wouldn't need to be 100% sure whether a member is cheating or not. Alright, maybe the occassional super skilled incoqnito GM gets erased but since the GM is disguised and decided to not hand over their real credentials there is no point for me to go deeper into the matter. It'll keep the site a lot cleaner.

Unless you were staff, you weren't so close to the facts at all.

Just calling your bluff here.

Did you do an analysis of her games and come up with a different result than several of us who showed her to be a cheater?

If so, come to the cheating forum and post that analysis.

Just calling your bluff.