Opponent get out of time but draw ?

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Ecamvelo_01

Hello,

During the game, my opponent play some move with Tower and King but when he arrived to 0, i don't win but draw but it remains 8s for me.

When didn't move 3 times the same move.

Why ???

KeSetoKaiba

The game info in your game archive shows this game was a draw by insufficient material (not by repetition).

This means that the side with the King (you) had time remaining on their clock, but the other person ran out of time. Normally, running out of time means a loss, but having insufficient material makes this a draw. You can read the details about draw by insufficient material on chess.com here: https://support.chess.com/article/128-what-does-insufficient-mating-material-mean

Ecamvelo_01

what miss material ? King + Tower is enough for chessmate !

Moreover, we play 3/4 moves with the same material without stop. Why the game wait the timer get 0 for tell that ?

KeSetoKaiba
Ecamvelo_01 wrote:

what miss material ? King + Tower is enough for chessmate !

Moreover, we play 3/4 moves with the same material without notification.

You were the white pieces, correct? (unless the board notation is flipped)

They (black) ran out of time. A Rook is enough to checkmate, but THEY ran out of time, so they can't possibly win. Usually they would lose on time, but because YOU (white) didn't have enough material to checkmate (you just had a lone King remaining), then the game is declared a draw by this rule.

If YOU were to run out of time here, then you would lose the game on time because a Rook and King by the opponent is enough to force checkmate.

Ecamvelo_01

I understand....

But it stolen, no less.

I had my time, i used that, the rule is : you are x minutes for chessmate. If your timer get 0 then you lose, materials or not.

In this case, no use a timer....

Martin_Stahl
Ecamvelo_01 wrote:

I understand....

But it stolen, no less.

I had my time, i used that, the rule is : you are x minutes for chessmate. If your timer get 0 then you lose, materials or not.

In this case, no use a timer....

It's impossible to win a game with a lone king. The best outcome you could ever hope for is a draw.The clock is not the most important thing; you still need to have sufficient material for mate to win on the clock.

That is the same rule used only official over the board chess regulations, especially for that material. There are some differences between what the site uses and the FIDE implementation when it comes to king + knight, king + bishop, and king + 2 knights when your opponent runs out of time and that's explained in the following.

https://support.chess.com/article/268-my-opponent-ran-out-of-time-why-was-it-a-draw

Ecamvelo_01

I understand the rule it's anyway a non sens. If the pat is forced then we remove the timer. The timer become unusable.

eric0022

It's a pity we cannot change the rule. You have to accept it, whether you like it or not. You cannot "remove the timer" - this draw rule is also seen in FIDE, the international federation for chess.

Always remember. In a draw by insufficient material scenario,

- the side having the material to checkmate has run out of time

- the side having the time does not have sufficient material (often, king only) to perform checkmate

Martin_Stahl
Ecamvelo_01 wrote:

I understand the rule it's anyway a non sens. If the pat is forced then we remove the timer. The timer become unusable.

The timer is important but not the most important. Given infinite time and the worst possible moves by your opponent, you could never win the game with that material. It does make sense to award the win on timeout with a lone king.