Plz add option not to play against people who disable chat

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Avatar of keju
MasterEd wrote:

I can understand arguments for not discriminating against them, but why do you discriminate against people who find such a behaviour repulsive?


So, by this logic, we should also add a button to automatically abort if one's opponent is from Leicester (in the United Kingdom). Because, while we can all understand arguments for not discriminating against people from Leicester (in the United Kingdom), why should chess.com discriminate against people who find people from Leicester (in the United Kingdom) repulsive?

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MasterEd wrote:

Hi, why there is an automatic "disable chat" option, but there is no "automatic abort if come across very rude persons who automatically disable chat"? I find such people don't have manners, and I don't particularly like playing against them. I can understand arguments for not discriminating against them, but why do you discriminate against people who find such a behaviour repulsive?


Look, somebody disabling chat doesn't necessarily mean that there is something wrong with his manners. Look at this: he might have had experience with trolls or pottymouths, and he doesn't want that to happen again. Considering that you have no relation with your opponent, disabling chat doesn't mean arrogance or selfishness or something. 

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I agree with MasterEd here.  I don't say anything during 95% of my chess games but I don't like it when my opponent disables chat.  It's good to have the option to make a remark during the game - for example, to mention a killer move my opponent missed, or say "gg" if the game was particularly good.

Playing against someone who has disabled chat feels like playing against a computer and that's not what I come to chess.com for.

For this reason I have blocked several users who just automatically disable chat.

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do you talk during a game otb ?

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Berder wrote:

It's good to have the option to make a remark during the game - for example, to mention a killer move my opponent missed,


I see.  By disabling chat people are unjustly depriving you of the opportunity to be a jerk.

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Cystem_Phailure wrote:
Berder wrote:

It's good to have the option to make a remark during the game - for example, to mention a killer move my opponent missed,


I see.  By disabling chat people are unjustly depriving you of the opportunity to be a jerk.


You've never done that?  After the game most people review it anyway to look for good moves they missed.  I wouldn't mention it if there's heavy time pressure (rarely talk anyway as I mentioned).

Avatar of kco

yeah but why get upset if someone disable the chat at the start ?

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Berder wrote:

Playing against someone who has disabled chat feels like playing against a computer and that's not what I come to chess.com for.

This is a more meaningful reason and I think it is a potentially valid one. I myself prefer not to chat, so there are people who like to chat and people who don't - that's just how it is. So it may be meaningful to have a checkbox option called "Only pair me with those whose chat settings match mine".

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I think Ed's idea is okay.  In fact, I don't see any harm in specifying as many options as a person wants in their game requests.  Keju's idea seems fine.  I don't know about automatically aborting; that seems extreme.

Forums, email, chat, text and anything else that has no verbal or body language clues makes for plenty of miscommunication.  I use sarcasm in real life, but don't in those text only communications for that reason.

BTW, I don't think I have encountered anyone who was intentionally rude or unkind in a game.  I have met some really nice people. 

Avatar of Slambang

Your problem is very simple. Quit playing chess and just join a CHAT website...

Avatar of Berder

You don't have to carry on a conversation to want chat enabled.  It's just in case you want to make a comment, even if you usually don't.  Enabling chat doesn't mean you want to talk a lot or at all.  Enabling chat also respects the other player by not taking away their ability to say something if they want to.

I suspect people probably cheat more or have bad sportsmanship when chat is disabled because it's less personal and you don't have to listen to the other guy complain.

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Berder wrote:

You don't have to carry on a conversation to want chat enabled.  It's just in case you want to make a comment, even if you usually don't.  Enabling chat doesn't mean you want to talk a lot or at all.  Enabling chat also respects the other player by not taking away their ability to say something if they want to.

I suspect people probably cheat more or have bad sportsmanship when chat is disabled because it's less personal and you don't have to listen to the other guy complain.


What nonsense.

Avatar of tshessmate

Virtually all chatting I have experienced have been insults on me. Real nasty words by idiots who do not care other players. Thereafter I have disabled the chat and played with pleasure almost every game.

Avatar of marysson

how does one disable chat anyway ?

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tshessmate wrote:

Virtually all chatting I have experienced have been insults on me. Real nasty words by idiots who do not care other players. Thereafter I have disabled the chat and played with pleasure almost every game.


 I am suprised to hear about such pervasive rudeness tshcessmate.  I rarely encounter such jerks.  Maybe because your rating is so much higher than mine, players might get more competitive at your level.  The rude jerks and the disconnectors are populated in my blocked jerks club which can be seen on my home page.  I must admit that I get a perverse satisfaction blocking someone who I never want to encounter again.

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For the first 100 or so games I played (mainly blitz) I couldn't see the chat facility because my settings were a mess so the seek graph covered chat. When I sorted this out, and then could read the chat, the first messages I received were stupid insults, f888ing this and that, you c888 and accusations of cheating (a super strong 1400 chess engine, complete with rookie errors?). The first 100 games were a lot more peaceful than the 101st game...

I don't disable chat though, but I can definitely understand why people would based on that sort of nonsense.

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Berder wrote:

I agree with MasterEd here.  I don't say anything during 95% of my chess games but I don't like it when my opponent disables chat.  It's good to have the option to make a remark during the game - for example, to mention a killer move my opponent missed, or say "gg" if the game was particularly good.

Playing against someone who has disabled chat feels like playing against a computer and that's not what I come to chess.com for.

For this reason I have blocked several users who just automatically disable chat.


+1

Avatar of NoahBogosh

You are totally wrong. I don't mind someone chatting once every 10 moves or so, but it gets annoying when every move they are telling you their life story. I especially hate people who swear whenever they make a blunder. Swearing is really uncalled for. But on the whole, I would like to commend the people on these forums for not swearing much at all. Bad Youtube manners has not influenced chess.com, which I am extremely grateful for.

Avatar of Vance917

Your broad-brush argument is essentially that there are some drunk drivers, therefore nobody should be allowed to drive.  Not logical.

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Perhaps a better analogy would be this one, which I actually read in one of the forums here just this week.  One or a few members from a certain country have offended me, so now I would like to block everyone from that country.  Yes, somebody actually posted this in a forum, just recently, although I did not endeavor to find it.  I'm sure I can if somebody wants to see it, and if it has not been taken down.  It is the exact same logic to state that some players have been rude to me in chat so therefore I will always turn off  chat in all games.  It makes no sense at all.  And whether or not the intention was to be rude, it is certainly reasonable for the player on the other side to take it as rude, since the one disabling chat has not taken the time to explain that this severing of all ties is based on some prior bad experience, and not on anything personal against the present opponent.  It is an effort to cut off any possibility of any friendly chat at all, which is not at all the same as just playing a normal game without chatting.