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I just played a 30 minute game against rstin01, and had to put the game aside for about 5 or 10 minutes to take care of something important. When I get back to my phone, I'm out of the game and it gave me a loss!
BryanIsGod wrote:
I just played a 30 minute game against rstin01, and had to put the game aside for about 5 or 10 minutes to take care of something important. When I get back to my phone, I'm out of the game and it gave me a loss!
Sounds good to me. Your phone probably broke the connection for you.
What, you expected your opponent to just twiddle his thumbs?
I just opened a ticket - as the app has been doing the same to me in the middle of games (where I’m not walking away - and also have good cell service and wireless). Really frustrating.
notmtwain wrote:
As a matter of fact, wiseass, that's exactly what I expect. I have 30 total minutes to to play, and if I feel like taking 29:59 of it, then that's my prerogative. Maybe you ought to use what there is of your brain and learn the concept of rules, rather than making smartass marks from the safety of your keypad.
BryanIsGod wrote:
I just played a 30 minute game against rstin01, and had to put the game aside for about 5 or 10 minutes to take care of something important. When I get back to my phone, I'm out of the game and it gave me a loss!
Sounds good to me. Your phone probably broke the connection for you.
What, you expected your opponent to just twiddle his thumbs?
BryanIsGod wrote:
notmtwain wrote:
As a matter of fact, wiseass, that's exactly what I expect. I have 30 total minutes to to play, and if I feel like taking 29:59 of it, then that's my prerogative. Maybe you ought to use what there is of your brain and learn the concept of rules, rather than making smartass marks from the safety of your keypad.
BryanIsGod wrote:
I just played a 30 minute game against rstin01, and had to put the game aside for about 5 or 10 minutes to take care of something important. When I get back to my phone, I'm out of the game and it gave me a loss!
Sounds good to me. Your phone probably broke the connection for you.
What, you expected your opponent to just twiddle his thumbs?
Because inconsiderate people like you used to walk away from their games all the time without thinking about their human opponent, members begged Chess.com to come up with a solution.
Now, when you sit and think for long enough, you get disconnected. There is some inactivity calculation that goes on. I am not sure of the formula but it is something like half of the remaining time.
You're welcome.
Oct 30, 2018
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#6
BryanIsGod wrote:
I feel like taking 29:59 of it, then that's my prerogative.
🙀concur
notmtwain wrote
Because inconsiderate people like you used to walk away from their games all the time without thinking about their human opponent, members begged Chess.com to come up with a solution."
Since I already made it very clear that I stepped away to deal with something important, the fact that you still choose to label me "inconsiderate" shows us all exactly what an intellectual superstar you are, sport. Must be fun to act like an ignorant, arrogant jackass on an app, where you can't get stuffed in a locker like at school, huh?
BryanIsGod wrote:
notmtwain wrote
Because inconsiderate people like you used to walk away from their games all the time without thinking about their human opponent, members begged Chess.com to come up with a solution."
Since I already made it very clear that I stepped away to deal with something important, the fact that you still choose to label me "inconsiderate" shows us all exactly what an intellectual superstar you are, sport. Must be fun to act like an ignorant, arrogant jackass on an app, where you can't get stuffed in a locker like at school, huh?
Yes, we are all sorry you weren't able to make it back in time but those things happen from time to time and it's not a tragedy.
If your house was on fire, you wouldn't care.
If you were being robbed, you wouldn't care.
If you were late for dinner, you mom and dad wouldn't care.
If it was really important, you wouldn't care. Therefore, it must not have been so important.
Did you suffer from diarrhea?
While that might justify leaving the board, I shouldn't think that it would result in a murderous outrage.
Threatening me? Yes, you are quite the specimen.
Yes, you have no consideration for your opponents.
Your profile name says it all.
Uh oh.
/ Did you know that in Daily Chess, you can go on vacation if something important comes up?
LMFAO! The fact that you're reading my comments as a "murderous outrage" says that all that needs to be said about you, as does your accusation that I threatened you when I did nothing of the kind.
Also, doubling down on ignorance isn't always the winning way out, sport. Your continuous parroting of calling me inconsiderate even after you've been shown to be wrong actually only makes you look like an ass. But again, this seems to be where you come to be a "tough guy", so I'm sure you'll just continue displaying your ignorance for all of us.
BryanIsGod wrote:
LMFAO! The fact that you're reading my comments as a "murderous outrage" says that all that needs to be said about you, as does your accusation that I threatened you when I did nothing of the kind.
Also, doubling down on ignorance isn't always the winning way out, sport. Your continuous parroting of calling me inconsiderate even after you've been shown to be wrong actually only makes you look like an ass. But again, this seems to be where you come to be a "tough guy", so I'm sure you'll just continue displaying your ignorance for all of us.
The reason so few players play rapid is the experience of sitting watching the screen trying to decide if the opponent is thinking or has given up the game.
Before they put in the inactivity timeout, there was no way to tell. You could go do something else but some people would wait until they were almost out of time and then come back.
It is unfortunate that you got interrupted but it is the price you have to pay for the welfare of everyone.
forked_again wrote:
How does the inactivity timeout work?
Not well.
The reason so few players play rapid is the experience of sitting watching the screen trying to decide if the opponent is thinking or has given up the game.
Before they put in the inactivity timeout, there was no way to tell. You could go do something else but some people would wait until they were almost out of time and then come back.
It is unfortunate that you got interrupted but it is the price you have to pay for the welfare of everyone.
That's a poor excuse for an inactivity timeout. People didn't know if someone was thinking or not? Boo hoo. Welcome to the internet. If you choose to play an online rapid game, that's what you deal with.
Do you think I've never sat and waited while my opponent ran out a 10 minute clock, legitimately or not? I set down my phone, watch TV or read a book, and wait for the chime to sound. When you play a timed game, that's what you should be prepared for. Someone who has a legitimate reason to step away from the game for an extended period shouldn't suffer because "well gee, I can't tell if you're thinking and I don't want to wait!!!"
I have 30 minutes, and I should get my 30 minutes. If I had to step away for longer than that, well then that's a legitimate timeout, and oh well, I lose. NOT a loss because "well, your time isn't up, but we're not sure if you're still playing, so...". That's ridiculous.
Dec 28, 2019
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#16
There should maybe be some kind of pop up (similar to a draw offer pop up) after say, 10 minutes to confirm if you’re still there with a 60 second response timer, if yes, the timer continues to count down, if no or no response, the game is abandoned?
Dec 29, 2019
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#17
The problem is that no-one knows how much time you can have before you get flagged by the server. Chess does not disconnect you. Instead, the server decides you haven't moved, so it ends the game, handing your opponent a win. I've asked chess support NUMEROUS times about this because it's appears to be RANDOM. I left a game for less than 1 minute to refill my coffee cup and when I came back, the server said that I had abandoned the game, so my opponent got the win. BUT, I was NOT disconnected (the ISP maintains logs I can see). In the next game, my opponent quit moving after 8 minutes in a 10-minute game. I thought - okay, the server will take care of this in a couple minutes. NOPE!!! I sat there for almost 8 minutes while my opponent's clock wound down to ZERO.
What chess.com needs to do is establish what the idle period is for each type of game, program it, and post it in the rules. OTHERWISE, there should be two types of games. One type where there is no time-out, so if you play a 10-0 game, you can sit for as long as you want to. The other type has a MAXIMUM TIME PER MOVE. So, if you have a 10-30, for example, it's a ten-minute game and you have 30 seconds maximum time to move. Or, for example, 5-120 game. That's 5-minute game where you have 2 minutes to move before you get kicked. Yahoo chess had this option and chess.com needs to implement it. Because everyone knows Yahoo chess was very basic, but at least it worked so the different types of players could set up games and not be frustrated. I think there's a LOT of frustrated players on chess.com. It's an easy software feature to code, so no excuses. If chess.com actually worked properly, I would buy a membership. But the software has a lot of holes, so until it's fixed, I don't see any reason to fork over the cash. If I wrote you a computer program to balance your checkbook and it summed it up wrong, would you pay me? No. Same goes for chess.com
Hey thats not true!!! Read this:
https://support.chess.com/article/338-how-does-game-abandonment-work
Dec 29, 2019
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#19
the_chess_zebra wrote:
The problem is that no-one knows how much time you can have before you get flagged by the server. Chess does not disconnect you. Instead, the server decides you haven't moved, so it ends the game, handing your opponent a win. I've asked chess support NUMEROUS times about this because it's appears to be RANDOM. I left a game for less than 1 minute to refill my coffee cup and when I came back, the server said that I had abandoned the game, so my opponent got the win. BUT, I was NOT disconnected (the ISP maintains logs I can see). In the next game, my opponent quit moving after 8 minutes in a 10-minute game. I thought - okay, the server will take care of this in a couple minutes. NOPE!!! I sat there for almost 8 minutes while my opponent's clock wound down to ZERO.
What chess.com needs to do is establish what the idle period is for each type of game...
Being disconnected from the Live server process may be due to a disconnect to your ISP, but that isn't the only reason. The disconnect can happen anywhere between you and the chess.com servers.
For things that can cause disconnects on your end, https://support.chess.com/article/213-how-do-i-fix-my-disconnect-lag-issues
The site does have the abandonment rules posted.
https://support.chess.com/article/338-how-does-game-abandonment-work
Martin_Stahl wrote:
the_chess_zebra wrote:
The problem is that no-one knows how much time you can have before you get flagged by the server. Chess does not disconnect you. Instead, the server decides you haven't moved, so it ends the game, handing your opponent a win. I've asked chess support NUMEROUS times about this because it's appears to be RANDOM. I left a game for less than 1 minute to refill my coffee cup and when I came back, the server said that I had abandoned the game, so my opponent got the win. BUT, I was NOT disconnected (the ISP maintains logs I can see). In the next game, my opponent quit moving after 8 minutes in a 10-minute game. I thought - okay, the server will take care of this in a couple minutes. NOPE!!! I sat there for almost 8 minutes while my opponent's clock wound down to ZERO.
What chess.com needs to do is establish what the idle period is for each type of game...
Being disconnected from the Live server process may be due to a disconnect to your ISP, but that isn't the only reason. The disconnect can happen anywhere between you and the chess.com servers.
For things that can cause disconnects on your end, https://support.chess.com/article/213-how-do-i-fix-my-disconnect-lag-issues
The site does have the abandonment rules posted.
https://support.chess.com/article/338-how-does-game-abandonment-work
includes the formula that says it only applies before move 10. That seems new and not right.