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On the Live Chess, once you join a tournament, you will see a tab that has three other tabs inside: "Chat", "Games" and "Standings". On "Standings" what does the "Tie" word mean? It always has random numbers and I just can't work it out. 

 

Thanks!

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Tie break is a way to decide on the winner if players are otherwise similarly stood in the tournament ranking. Here's a quick explanation:  http://www.chess.com/tournaments/help.html#tiebreak

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That kind of makes sense. I just played a tournament where 3 of us were first but I was 3rd because my Tie score was lower. That meant I just played players of lower rank compared to them right? But surely that shouldn't matter?

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Nope. Ratings have nothing to do with calculating your tie score, but rather how your opponents have faired in the tournament. Your opponents came in 1st and 2nd places because the opponents they won/drew against had better standings in the tournament than your opponents.

Eg. If you win your opponent with the white pieces you get 1x their overall score.

- If you win your opponent both with black and white you get 2x their overall score

- If you win with white and draw with black you get 1.5x their overall score

 

It's a bit confusing but I hope this helps.

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[EDIT: Sorry I thought you wrote rating instead of rank]

Avatar of Ali-B24-7

Thats interesting but I thought Colour faired no preference in a game of Chess. Where is the reasoning behind the system you showed just now with the colours?

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Ali-B24-7 wrote:

Thats interesting but I thought Colour faired no preference in a game of Chess. Where is the reasoning behind the system you showed just now with the colours?


Oh the colours were just exemplary. They could be switched any which way around. Sorry for the confusing example :)

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Ahhh?? I'm confused again sorry... Can you re-explain?

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Nevermind the colours. They were just part of an example. 

Say you're playing a tournament with 4 players and you're always playing the same opponent 4 times.

Say your opponent x has won his other games with full 4/4 and has now 8/8 points and is in lead. You've won only 4 of your 8 games so far and need to win all of your games against this opponent x to stand same in the rankings. You win all your games against him 4/4 and thust you get 4x8 = 32 tie break points from him. In addition you'll get tie-points from the other opponents as well.

The calculation 4x8 comes from 4 (the number of games you won against him) and 8 (the total number of points your opponent had won in the tourney). If he had gotten some of the points via draws, you'd only get 0.5 times their worth (0.25 per draw).