The other opponent can spend his time doing whatever he wants with it.
its bad sportsmanship, but affecting this rule seems too much.
play less time increments, higher time gain, if you feel affected too much.
as in 1/20 as oppossed to 20/0. i dont know how they convert, just giving an example.
there is a connection loss time thing i believe
how about, for 30: 10 minutes 15/10: 10 minutes 10: 7 minutes, and anything else is to the clock?
Ridiculous rule. Stupidest post ever read. Worse also than the autoresign when losing on material.
You user name is ridiculous, but I didn't comment on it before you commented on my post. You wanted a time limit, and I provided a suggestion, because sometimes when I'm playing live chess, I have somethign unexpected happen where I need to go away from the game for a couple of minutes and this would give adequate time to do that.
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chasm1995
I agree with your proposal
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i_r_n00b
"The other opponent can spend his time doing whatever he wants with it.
its bad sportsmanship"
This is more then "bad sportsmanship". It is rude or ignorance. There are a lot of players out there that simply don't understand that if they don't resign, then their opponent is hung up until that game runs out of time.
I came to play! If I have set aside few hours for chess, I certainly don't want to be sitting around and not playing do to someone's ignorance or rudeness.
As to your reference to "connection loss time", the chess computer is aware of a conection being dropped, it sends a message indicating that your opponent has lost the connection. In most cases they reconnect quickly. If the computer is monitoring the time between moves, it can stop the clock, for an appropriate time, and continue the countdown upon reconnect. If disconnected for the maximum time, then it is a loss on time.
I sympathise with those people who have poor quality connections. However, they should consider playing online chess where their is no time between moves.
Explain your comment!
"Ridiculous rule. Stupidest post ever read."
The concept of playing online, with a time limit is already established by virtue of the fact that your game is being timed, ie;
15/10 is a 15 minute game with 10 seconds added for each move. If you use all of your time, you loose. If you don't want to be timed, you have other choices.
Give the concept some thought.
Profblundereer, I do believe that I understand you name;
It looks like you have made a blunder!!!!
Rusty Tinman
The time is for all of your move. Stop. If there are stupid kids that don't resign even they are a queen down or there is a forced mate in 2, you can't add weird rules.
Bad rule. Two reasons:
1. Chess is not played at a constant pace. Critical moves require more time. Other moves can be played quickly. The proposed rule assumes that every move is played at the same pace.
2. You should not invent a rule that punishes innocent people in order to catch guilty people.
To chasm1995
You posted
You user name is ridiculous, but I didn't comment on it before you commented on my post.
If you feel that my user name is ridiculous, then you should know is origin.
I have Parkinsons Disease PD. I am 67. I was drafted in 1965. I believe that my exposure to agent orange (defoliage is in Viet Nam) caused my PD, along with other factors. I applied for treatment and compension to the US Army, Veterans Administration. It was denied because I couldn't provide proof. I asked for my medical records and was told they were lost. A close friend, who also was drafted began getting symptons imediately. He was told that he had 3 years to live. That was in 68. He was honorably disharged. He became an addict. He is still alive, but suffers from several cancers.
another friend commited suicide. My PD systems didn't manifest themselves until my late 40's. 5 different Doctors, did not dagnose it over 6 years. Finally, my wife, after much research, diagnosed PD. It was confirmed by a Neurologist at the VA hospital in Philly.
In a 15 minute game, the longest anyone should think on a single move is 15 minutes.
In tournament chess, players are not allowed to leave the venue without the TD/arbiter's approval. If a player isn't moving for 15 minutes in a longer game, they should at least be able to respond to a query, such as "Are you still there?", with a "y".
But a punishment for such behavior? That's much more difficult.
Only if this is a routine pattern for the player should there be any problem. One thing to look for would be the number of times a person times out in a lost position after having plenty of time before reaching that lost position.
On this site, it is rather difficult to prove because the times for each move aren't recorded, as they are on other sites.
To chasm1995
You posted
You user name is ridiculous, but I didn't comment on it before you commented on my post.
If you feel that my user name is ridiculous, then you should know is origin.
I have Parkinsons Disease PD. I am 67. I was drafted in 1965. I believe that my exposure to agent orange (defoliage is in Viet Nam) caused my PD, along with other factors. I applied for treatment and compension to the US Army, Veterans Administration. It was denied because I couldn't provide proof. I asked for my medical records and was told they were lost. A close friend, who also was drafted began getting symptons imediately. He was told that he had 3 years to live. That was in 68. He was honorably disharged. He became an addict. He is still alive, but suffers from several cancers.
another friend commited suicide. My PD systems didn't manifest themselves until my late 40's. 5 different Doctors, did not dagnose it over 6 years. Finally, my wife, after much research, diagnosed PD. It was confirmed by a Neurologist at the VA hospital in Philly.
Not your username, but ProfBlunderer's, and I apologise if you are offended by that comment in any way.
Fact is, if you enter into a 15 minute game, your opponent can use that 15 minutes to cook his dinner if he so desires. If you don't like that fact, play faster time controls.
For the record, 15 minutes on a move is very common in higher level play in critical positions, let alone a whole game. If patience isn't your thing then maybe chess isn't the game for you.
To chasm1995
You posted
You user name is ridiculous, but I didn't comment on it before you commented on my post.
I case you don't know, PD is the loss of control of your muscles.
I take sinemet every 3 hours or I freeze up and can't move. The Tinman in the movie 'The Wizard of OZ' the tinman would rust when it rained and couldn't move, hence
"Rusty Tinman"
Imagine that t is 2:30AM. You are in bed asleep. You wake up with the urge to urinate. But you can't move because you went to bed at 10:00 PM and your last sinement dose was at 8:00PM, 6 hours and 30 minutes ago. You struggle to get out of bed and go to the bathroom. It takes 40 minutes. Just as you get to the toilet, your bladder control is gone. You urinate on your PJ's and the floor.
Do you still think that my username is ridiculous?
I think I proved mathematically, in another thread, that if you use more than one minute on a move you are turtling. Also, I worked with Agent Orange. I was Agent Blue, not quite as famous.
And lets re-open the discussion about vacations during live chess. Suppose, during a 10 minute game, I buy a ticket to see the Iditarod in Alaska? I am supposed to abandon that just to finish off the chess game?
We need more poorly thought out threads, there arent enough of them.
Some people may require "more" time, hence why they even requested and agreed to increments.
This is one of Agent Orange's disguises:
To chasm1995
You posted
You user name is ridiculous, but I didn't comment on it before you commented on my post.
I case you don't know, PD is the loss of control of your muscles.
I take sinemet every 3 hours or I freeze up and can't move. The Tinman in the movie 'The Wizard of OZ' the tinman would rust when it rained and couldn't move, hence
"Rusty Tinman"
Imagine that t is 2:30AM. You are in bed asleep. You wake up with the urge to urinate. But you can't move because you went to bed at 10:00 PM and your last sinement dose was at 8:00PM, 6 hours and 30 minutes ago. You struggle to get out of bed and go to the bathroom. It takes 40 minutes. Just as you get to the toilet, your bladder control is gone. You urinate on your PJ's and the floor.
Do you still think that my username is ridiculous?
If you look at post #13, you will see how I hadn't said it towards you, and that I apologised for offending you.
I once played a 15|10 game here and in a critical position I used almost all my time thinking. About 10 minutes into that my opponent asked something to the effect of "Are you still there?" I just disabled the chat. It's rude to interrupt someone else's work. When I start a 15|10 game I expect to spend my next 15 min x 2 + ~40 moves x 10 seconds x 2 on that game and reserve time accordingly.
I propose a new rule when playing live online chess. Many times, when I'm playing a timed game, such as 15/10, and I gain an early advantage, the opponent simply stops playing.
This means that I must wait until the opponent's time runs out before I can play another game.I think there should be a rule on the maximum amount of time that you can spend between moves. For example, if a maximum time of one minute was set, then if someone stops playing, after one minute, they would lose on time.
Do you think one minute is appropriate? Should it be 30 seconds? Please give some feedback.