What can I do against respectless ignorant opponents?

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Monton15

Hello. 
In my Last game, I obviously made a mistake in my 6th move by not paying attention at all to the game and lost my queen. I told him, what distracted me, and he replied with " cool 😎 " . Then I asked him, if we could re-play this game, but instead of answering  me, he ignored me completely. Instead, he rejected a draw and kept playing, when I made a move. 
I absolutely hate this kind of respectless players here on chess.com , but sadly they are obviousl the majority here, and you are doing nothing against them. All you do is make it easier for them. there is no report button, we can't even call an Admin here to help. There will be no consequences at all for those scums. You are doing the same as them, ignoring this completely. I have mentioned this problem before, but nothing had changed. I'm honestly thinking of deleting my Account if you keep ignoring this Problem. I know you higher ups don't care about honor, respect and politeness, but I'm begging you to do so. Chess doesn't deserve to have such scums as the majority. Please do something. 

Monton15

I guess you don't understand. I'm the one losing interest playing here, after all these months, I'm upset because of those Players, who laugh at those, who lost. That's respectless. 
It's like you're defending those who are guilty. Would you stay calm and respectful towards a rapist? Just an example. 

Monton15

By the way, you are the one receiving the Problem. So in the case of a rapist, being the raped one. 
And where am I acting ignorant? 

Monton15

Not replying? And you say I'm the one acting ignorant? Yet you answer like this.....   

stewardjandstewardj

No offense, but you really are acting like a 6-year old. It's your fault for losing your queen. If he doesn't want to respond, he doesn't have to. He might be a little respectless, but he is definitely not ignorant just cause he doesn't want a rematch, and doesn't respond. And I don't even know why you would THINK that he wants a draw after you sacrificed your queen! How are YOU not respectless by making this forum. How are YOU not ignorant for not knowing that there is a Help & Support. You can also contact Chess.com, and they will respond by email.

They are not obvious at all. I have never had to deal with people as you describe, and the person you encountered is not like that at all. You are just frustrated because the person doesn't want a rematch, which I don't even get.

From now on, if you think there is a problem, and if you know you are not exaggerating like you are now, then please CONTACT Chess.com support instead of complaining.

ash_wins

lmao it was ur fault deal with it wq.png

wanmokewan

Noes! I was too late. I wanted to lecture him. :/

Monton15

No, you are wrong. I am not frustrated, that he didn't want a rematch, If he had just said no, I would have continued playing.
You guys probably don't encounter these people, because you are conveying members. 
I HAVE been mailing them, but they have never replied. 
Just because you can't seem to understand, why someone would actually offer a draw like this, doesn't mean that it's meaningless. 
I can tell you why I would think a offering a draw, because that's the only way to make a rematch in a live game, where no one loses any points. Someone onced offered me a draw like this, and ever since then I sometimes to the same to people, who seem to be nice, just before I win. Because you have never seen a draw offering being used like this, that's why you're unable to think of it. It's a really nice gesture, if someone accepts it for this purpose. 
Make a new account and play again without your preferred membership and see what opponents you will mostly get. 

Tell me, what else can I do than complaining here, if chess.com never replies? 
I could get a better membership like you, then surely they will listen. 
But no, thanks. 

Chesserroo2

At the 1300 level, a hung queen is hardly a game loser. You should have kept playing OP. Maybe your opponent would have hung a rook or two. Happens in my games. I've learned not to resign over such matters. The computer says I make 2 blunders most games, as do my opponents. Don't ask for take backs. Just ask for a rematch or play someone else.

Monton15

Comments like nyancat1110 and wanmokewans are just useless. 

wanmokewan

What do you mean by "conveying members"? I have never heard that terminology.

Monton15

@Chesserroo2 But after he replied with "  cool 😎 " of course I was expecting an answer. Just that alone is worse than ignoring. Otherwise I would have immediately resumed the game. 

Monton15

That's the translation I get from google translate for " Fördermitglieder ". I mean members, who pay for chess.com. These people gete more attention from support. 

wanmokewan

Oh, paying members. I encountered rude opponents when I was paying. I learned to ignore them. That's how it is on the Internet. You can't force someone to do what you want. Also, calling them ignorant and disrespectful doesn't make you look any better than them.

Chesserroo2
Monton15 wrote:

No, you are wrong. I am not frustrated, that he didn't want a rematch, If he had just said no, I would have continued playing.
You guys probably don't encounter these people, because you are conveying members. 
I HAVE been mailing them, but they have never replied. 
Just because you can't seem to understand, why someone would actually offer a draw like this, doesn't mean that it's meaningless. 
I can tell you why I would think a offering a draw, because that's the only way to make a rematch in a live game, where no one loses any points. Someone onced offered me a draw like this, and ever since then I sometimes to the same to people, who seem to be nice, just before I win. Because you have never seen a draw offering being used like this, that's why you're unable to think of it. It's a really nice gesture, if someone accepts it for this purpose. 
Make a new account and play again without your preferred membership and see what opponents you will mostly get. 

Tell me, what else can I do than complaining here, if chess.com never replies? 
I could get a better membership like you, then surely they will listen. 
But no, thanks. 

Monton,

I see how you could be bothered by your opponent ignoring your request instead of immediately saying no. What everyone here is trying to point out though is that almost no one offers a draw after losing a queen. It is generous if the winning side offers it, but not as cool for the losing side to offer it. And where would you draw the line? A hug rook? A hung knight? Pawn? Most people here just note their mistake and either resign or keep playing. We don't see it as that big of a deal. Dropping a piece is part of our skill level during time pressure. Most likely your opponent was not trying to be rude so much as just unsure how to answer such a request, unaware that a simple no would suffice, so he/she simply did not answer.

 

Many people disable chat. If I do chat, I just say, "gg", or "good move!".

 

I highly doubt chess.com has any way of knowing which people are rude for not answering chat. You likely get the same people we do. You just choose to ask for draws. Paid members want to improve their ratings too, and are just as likely to turn down a draw offer. Instead of chatting for a draw, you should have clicked the draw button, so the person could just click no. If they did not click no, I would agree that is a bit rude, but not something to get really upset about. Just play someone else next time if it bothers you that much.

 

I once was down to just a king and rook vs king and rook, and pointless checking. It was an obvious draw. But my opponent had 5 minutes left and I had 20 seconds. Did I get upset and ask for a draw? No. I realized that my opponent made equally good moves as I did but in half the time (10 minute time control), so I let my opponet have the win. I could have asked for a draw there, but a better approach would have been to premove and try to get 50 moves in before the timer, and then call the 50 move rule draw. I had better things to do with my time.

Monton15

I didn't immediately offer him a draw. I first told him, why I was distracted, then after his reply, I asked the question for a rematch, still without offering a draw. I jsut waited for a reply, because he replied right away before. but nothing came, so I asked him politely to please answer. then not to ignore me, Then like after a while I kept on playing and offered a draw. He then made his move and rejected the offer, but still never answered. that's unpolite. 

m_connors

Ok, we get that blundering your Queen would be frustrating; however, I think it is a little unrealistic to expect your opponent to accept a draw offer after winning so much material. As Chesserroo2 indicated, just play on and look for your opportunities and if they come along maybe then offer a draw.

Also I think draws can cost you points. The lower rated player will gain a few, while the higher rated lose a few. I believe how many depends on your rating spread. If you were evenly rated, then I guess there would be no points. If your opponent was rated lower then he would stand to gain more points by winning than accepting the draw. If the game started to turn, he might then want a draw to earn a few points rather than losing them.

As for a direct answer to your question, be carful with whom you play. Unless you are in a tournament, I think you always have an option of choosing your opponent.

 EDIT: By the time it took me to type this, posts 18 and 19 were added. (I type just about as well as I play chess!) 

Chesserroo2
Monton15 wrote:

I didn't immediately offer him a draw. I first told him, why I was distracted, then after his reply, I asked the question for a rematch, still without offering a draw. I jsut waited for a reply, because he replied right away before. but nothing came, so I asked him politely to please answer. then not to ignore me, Then like after a while I kept on playing and offered a draw. He then made his move and rejected the offer, but still never answered. that's unpolite. 

Under the circumstances, I see how your opponents silence was rude. Most chess players though would not worry about it. It does not matter in the long run.

 

Just today, I was playing blitz, and there was a knock at my front door. I lost at least 30 seconds in a tight game. I did not ask for a draw. How can my opponent know if I really had a knock at the front door or if I just wanted extra time? Life happens. Chess players accept losses and move on.

 

If your rating drops, that means you will get an extra point or two the next time you beat someone, since they will be rated higher than you. The rating system is very self correcting and finds your true strength fast.

BillForster

You are getting some good advice here Monton15. Try to accept it. The reality of life on the internet is that not everyone is going to behave as you would like them to. The best way to play chess on the internet is to resign or play on in the hope of a come back if you make a mistake. Don't try and plead and reason with your opponent - nobody likes or respects that. It's only a game the worse thing that can happen is you lose a few rating points. Occasionally I have been in positions where my opponent has made an obvious horrible mouse-slip (not a normal chess blunder) and then immediately made a draw offer. I think every time I have accepted the offer, recognising that injustice of a mouse slip and being a nice person. But I am not obligated to do this and it is completely normal and reasonable to just play on and take full advantage of both mouse slips and other types of blunders.

dotol

 He is not obligated to give you a draw or even answer you. You hung your queen, I'm sure other people have done it against you and not said a word, it all evens out. Nor does he have any way of knowing if it was even a mouse slip or just a brain freeze on your part. 

Also the fact that you'd want to call an admin because you blundered your queen means that chess is likely not for you. Imagine doing that in an OTB tournament. Lol