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knappyrootz

What's 'gg' mean when you use it after a loss?

Cystem_Phailure
CarolynAlbie wrote:

I only ever get offended when my opponent says GG after the first move or two, other than that I just assume it's a platitude for "Thanks for the game". Just like "GL" doesn't actually mean the opponent is wishing you luck because I assume they don't really care enough.


Of course, this thread and many others have shown that there are people who are thrown into an absolute frenzy over "thanks for the game" and "gl" too and will provide all sorts of reasons why those phrases can be interpreted as rude.  Cool

It's all just people looking for excuses to be offended.  Let them wallow in it-- they're happier that way.

whitebull

Wow.  This is too strange.  I seldom use "gg'.  I do however, periodically use "Good Game," and when I use it I am sincere.

Bodhiwan
blake78613 wrote:
Bodhiwan wrote:

Judging by the 31 pages this has probably been said 12 times already, but anyhoo I really do not think one should put too much if any thought into the "gg" comment. For most people it's simply the plain courtesy thing that it have always been regarding online games of any kind in general. For the few that would mean something else with it, well, who cares? If they really wanted to offend, they would likely not use something that most people consider to be a courtesy response... It's a bit like getting annoyed by a person saying hi on the street. What the **** did he mean by that, saying hi to me!? My god people are rude!!!


 If you have to ask "who cares?", then you're beyond hope.  Part of the problem is that people who lack social awareness and empathy, don't put any thought into their comments.  This is forgivable and can be chalked up to immaturity, but once it has been pointed out to them how inappropriate it is for the winner to say "GG"; and they persist, then this can't be called anything but arrogance and they can  no longer claim good intentions.


In all fairness, persisting to misinterpret what 99,984 % of the gaming communities of the world consider to be a friendly comment regardless of win or loss is a much stronger candidate to being beyond hope ;) It's a simple polite handshake, "thanks for the game", in an otherwise very anonymous gaming environment, especially when played on the phone where the chat is a tucked away tiny icon and easily missed.

Trust me, as an online gamer for many, many years, if you were to make a statement of "gg" being offensive in any other gaming community, people would just shake their heads. This is where people's general interpretation of online communication originates, same as with all caps meaning yelling, lol, afk, smileys etc. You can't just from a corner of the world decide that these things mean something completely different just because you happen to interpret them that way. In the rare occasion that someone were to actually mean to offend, as such it still fails as most people would simply consider it to be a friendly comment (which is what I meant with "who cares").

Also, if this is so offensive to you, why not just simply ask whenever anyone is saying "gg" to you what they mean? I would bet good money on how many times you would be surprised at their friendly intentions, given that it was asked equally friendly of course.

e4nf3

One of these days, simply saying "please" or "thank you" is going to raise the ire of some neurotic idiot.

YallPlayCheckers

My cousin is gonna go viral! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxatl4gY71Q

Bodhiwan
elbowgrease wrote:

Does anyone know KillaNinja's account was closed??


He might have just run out of ninjas, they're pretty rare these days.

mobambo

If I enjoyed a game and my opponent was around my rank and we both tried pretty hard, I simply say 'thank you for the game'...or 'thank you for playing me'.....that's if I win, of course...I try to say thanks for the game...if I lose I'm probably annoyed because I made so many bone-headed moves, and I probably don't want to talk with anyone just then.....but I will retuurn a 'gg' if my opponent offers it. In general, I don't like hearing 'gg' if I lose because I DIDN'T play a good game...probably made stupid moves...and if I win...my opponent may feel the same way I do if I lose...i.e.....'no, it wasn't a very good game on my part'. So I just play chess...that's all I'm here for anyway.

bastiaan

gg is a compliment, loss or win. It's silly to get frustrated over such a thing

CarolynAlbie
Cystem_Phailure wrote:

It's all just people looking for excuses to be offended.  


Exactly. Same here as it is everywhere else. It's like people enjoy it. 

blake78613

to TheGrobe

I looked at the thread you referenced.  The player that was disappointed that his opponents didn't say "gg" always said it himself.   That in my opinion is not "unsolicited".  If the loser first says "gg" then then the polite thing is to acknowledge it.  That would be like the loser OTB extending his hand and the winner ignoring it.  My point is that the proper protocol is for the loser to initiate any post-game exchange.

TheGrobe
There were other commenters in the thread who expressed the sentiment you asked about. It was the first "gg" thread of many I turned up in a forum search. There are many many such threads, and the sentiment's not uncommon.
mobambo
blake78613 wrote:

to TheGrobe

I looked at the thread you referenced.  The player that was disappointed that his opponents didn't say "gg" always said it himself.   That in my opinion is not "unsolicited".  If the loser first says "gg" then then the polite thing is to acknowledge it.  That would be like the loser OTB extending his hand and the winner ignoring it.  My point is that the proper protocol is for the loser to initiate any post-game exchange.


 that's probably the best answer....if I win a game, I just walk away. The loser may not feel that he/she played a 'good game'.

nameno1had

I am somewhat bothered that GG can carry a positive or negative connotation. I am surprised no one has complained about people just being suddenly gone and comparing it to no handshake and/or eye contact after an in person game. I guess I try to put the shoe on the other foot after a game. I try to give people a pass when their behavior is questionable, as long as they weren't blatantly trying to insult me, I am not bothered by their attempts to cope with defeat. I will admit, I am perhaps just as bothered, by a more coercing type of insult. I guess it is the price of sanctioning, for a chess game on the web.

winerkleiner

Can you say, "That was challenging and thanks for the game, peace"?

AndyClifton

"Sure!  I knew you could say that!"

winerkleiner

Isn't he my neighbor?  Wouldn't you like to be my neighbor?

Sorry, but that was creepy, Smile

AndyClifton

I grew up in the city, so this was the guy we had:

winerkleiner
AndyClifton wrote:

I grew up in the city, so this was the guy we had:

 


 Lol I'm Gumby damn it

FerociousResolve

loosen up dude, life is not so serious... personally, just out of pure politeness, i will say 'good game' regardless of whether i win or lose.... that is to say, i simply enjoy the fight regardless of the result.... your comment suggests that you are having difficulty separating your ego from the game, which is not uncommon at all....i know it took me a while to let go... anyway, do as you will