Horrible players complaining about you using an engine

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I wouldn't be surprised if this has been discussed numerous times in the past. However all we can do is change all the delusional players one at a time.

I just finished 1st at a tournament, which shouldn't come as a surprise as all of the opponents were inferior. In the last game my opponent wrote "lucky" after I systematically destroyed him without a Queen. I offered him a rematch right after the tournament in which he resigned in exactly 6 moves.

https://www.chess.com/live/game/4299239527

https://www.chess.com/live/game/4299255971

However this thread is about a particular breed of a player. I'm sure you've faced them before. The lower the rating, the higher the chance that you're playing against one of them. This particular gent describes himself as "a playmate" guy. He was obviously too lazy to do a quick Google search before choosing to describe himself in such a manner. There's no self respecting man who calls himself "a playmate guy". Onto the game:

https://www.chess.com/live/game/4299211644

I played far from exceptional but I knew I was playing a 2/1 game against an inferior opponent so I baited him several times with moves which would've been punished against decent opposition. With half of his time still left on the clock and an 8 point disadvantage mid game, the check mate being just around the corner with his skill level, the playmate guy faced a dilemma.

He could keep his honor, resign, write "Congratulations! I'd appreciate a rematch after the tournament." or do what he chose to do - stall the game, not make any move for a minute and spend his entire minute, essentially half of the game, accusing me of being a cheater and using an engine in a 2/1 bullet game. We're talking about a guy with a rating of 1439. A clear display of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Obviously being accused of using an engine while playing fairly should only be taken for what it is - the kindest compliment of them all. The reason I made this thread is in the hopes of curing at least one person of his delusions.


Dear @chessterly_yours , one does not need an engine to comfortably beat you. I might need an engine to beat at all costs an opponent who's rated 1000 points higher than you but why would anyone need an engine against you? If you lose any game, this means that somewhere along the way, you made mistakes and your opponent took advantage of them. While an element of what might be perceived as luck may be present during some games, especially online, chess is a game of skill. Learn how to lose a game without losing a dignity. I offered you a rematch after the tournament to give you another opportunity to win but you rejected it and ran away from the rematch. This attitude of explaining your losses and shortcomings with unfairness and believing that your opponents are cheating will get you nowhere in life. It's great to be competitive. If you lose, say "congrats" and ask for a rematch so you can learn and become better. There's a difference between being competitive, hungry to learn/improve and making up invalid excuses and accusations for your losses. We're all here to improve and it should be a humbling experience to play against a player who's classes above you. We all have this privilege of being able to be brought back to the ground, unless we're Nakamura and there are few people out there who can beat us in a blitz game or we decide to lie to ourselves and be plain delusional.

If anyone would like to check the game I played against the playmate guy, please do so and let me know which "engine" I've used that would make two mistakes and four inaccuracies against a low-rated player.

In conclusion, I'd be happy to play with you in the future and help you on your path of becoming a better thinker, a better player and a man who takes responsibility for his shortcomings and losses.

Sincerely,

AM

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ArenaMastery wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if this has been discussed numerous times in the past. However all we can do is change all the delusional players one at a time.

 

I just finished 1st at a tournament, which shouldn't come as a surprise as all of the opponents were inferior. In the last game my opponent wrote "lucky" after I systematically destroyed him without a Queen. I offered him a rematch right after the tournament in which he resigned in exactly 6 moves.

https://www.chess.com/live/game/4299239527

https://www.chess.com/live/game/4299255971

 

However this thread is about a particular breed of a player. I'm sure you've faced them before. The lower the rating, the higher the chance that you're playing against one of them. This particular gent describes himself as "a playmate" guy. He was obviously too lazy to do a quick Google search before choosing to describe himself in such a manner. There's no self respecting man who calls himself "a playmate guy". Onto the game:

https://www.chess.com/live/game/4299211644

 

I played far from exceptional but I knew I was playing a 2/1 game against an inferior opponent so I baited him several times with moves which would've been punished against decent opposition. With half of his time still left on the clock and an 8 point disadvantage mid game, the check mate being just around the corner with his skill level, the playmate guy faced a dilemma.

 

He could keep his honor, resign, write "Congratulations! I'd appreciate a rematch after the tournament." or do what he chose to do - stall the game, not make any move for a minute and spend his entire minute, essentially half of the game, accusing me of being a cheater and using an engine in a 2/1 bullet game. We're talking about a guy with a rating of 1439. A clear display of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Obviously being accused of using an engine while playing fairly should only be taken for what it is - the kindest compliment of them all. The reason I made this thread is in the hopes of curing at least one person of his delusions.


Dear @xyz , one does not need an engine to comfortably beat you. I might need an engine to beat at all costs an opponent who's rated 1000 points higher than you but why would anyone need an engine against you? If you lose any game, this means that somewhere along the way, you made mistakes and your opponent took advantage of them. While an element of what might be perceived as luck may be present during some games, especially online, chess is a game of skill. Learn how to lose a game without losing a dignity. I offered you a rematch after the tournament to give you another opportunity to win but you rejected it and ran away from the rematch. This attitude of explaining your losses and shortcomings with unfairness and believing that your opponents are cheating will get you nowhere in life. It's great to be competitive. If you lose, say "congrats" and ask for a rematch so you can learn and become better. There's a difference between being competitive, hungry to learn/improve and making up invalid excuses and accusations for your losses. We're all here to improve and it should be a humbling experience to play against a player who's classes above you. We all have this privilege of being able to be brought back to the ground, unless we're Nakamura and there are few people out there who can beat us in a blitz game or we decide to lie to ourselves and be plain delusional.

 

If anyone would like to check the game I played against the playmate guy, please do so and let me know which "engine" I've used that would make two mistakes and four inaccuracies against a low-rated player.

 

In conclusion, I'd be happy to play with you in the future and help you on your path of becoming a better thinker, a better player and a man who takes responsibility for his shortcomings and losses.

 

Sincerely,

AM

 

A tough second day on chess.com.

You should delete the name of your opponent. What you are supposed to do is use the report button on their profile. People who abandon games get assigned to a special bad sport pool.

Avatar of WhiteManFromTown

I'm thinking the more annoying type of player is one that opens his posts with lines like "It should come as no surprise that I just won a tournament, because I was just so much better than everyone". Nickel's worth of free advice, sport: No one's impressed. And if you're always this much of a pompous ass, I'd prepare yourself for a lot more of your opponents deciding they have better things they want to do with their time than finish their game with you...

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if you were playing a 2/1 game and you say he abandoned it with half his time left, well my math is not the greatest but I do believe that would leave him with approximately 1 min, hmm. . . well excuse me cuz I'm quite slow and dumb cuz I have spent way over minute thinking about my next move, and none of my opponents so far have ever complained about it. I have also had many times where my connection has caused me to loose over a minute, I'm currently trying to go for the record rating in bullet games. . . as lowest ever lol. anyway my point is just cuz you had to wait doesn't mean the person was trying to be a prick, could be one of many reasons. Honestly though I'm not trying to be a prick either but complaining about having to wait a minute seems pretty petty, and the engine accusation I would have just replied to him "lol" and taken it as a compliment.

Avatar of Rastasouljah

OMG sorry about double post my connection is so laggy I didn't think it even went thru then 5 secs later there's 2. use the Android app and I have yet to find a way to delete or edit posts or I would

Avatar of the_chess_zebra

The proper response of someone accusing you of using a chess engine is "Vrrrroooom!!!" and then block their sorry a**

 

 

Avatar of BaronVonChickenpants

You come across a bit pompous here, regardless of how valid your point may be, it'll put people off.

Avatar of freexeon

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I just finished 1st at a tournament, which shouldn't come as a surprise as all of the opponents were inferior

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Congrats on finishing the tournament, even if all of your opponents were inferior. Still, nice to finish.

Oh wait, I was supposed to be impressed.

Avatar of BaronVonChickenpants
ghost_of_pushwood wrote:

Unless of course they relish pomposity.

That's possible, but they will have a readership of one. 

Avatar of MatthewFreitag

This is why I do not play bullet chess, the people.

 

 

Also I suck at it.

Avatar of Sartradjm

Ignore them