New Logic for Auto-pairing and Seek Graph!

Which button?

Sorry - the "Start Game" button. :) Or any of the buttons you sometimes see (in the mobile apps or as a new member) that just say "10 min" or "5 | 2", etc.

The real point wasn't about a specific button; it was about keeping it simple, rather than adding a bunch of specific preferences that will tend to increase wait-time.

I didnt say that I only play people 500 points better than me. I play anyone who I get the chance to. I am quite willing to put my rating on the line in fact i do it everyday. Of coarse I have to play people at my own level but there is a need to play people at a higher level. As a chess player and as a human I strive for a good challange. Dont you? I do agree that if these changes reduced exposure to childish players who will disconnect and run down the clock it would be nice but you still get them everywhere. These changes do nothing but limit the range of my opponents and that is not good.

I changed my mind, Marvingardens is right, we are all idiots who "are not willing to risk (?) our rating", because as everybody knows improving in practical games is easier when you face 900 or 1200s...

I'm sorry but with that tone and attitude it's really hard to take you seriously. You remind me of the classroom perfect boy.

"By refusing to play people around your rating, you ask higher-rated players to put their rating on the line.."


NOBODY REFUSES TO PLAY, at least not me, but they took away ONE option, that is playing someone who's better then you - and when you see HOW he plays against you using his SUPERIOR skills, maybe, just MAYBE, you can get an insight or something.

You are truly a superior guy, apart from all that ;)

If there really is a huge waiting penalty for "upseeking" (which I have not seen yet, but I play around my rating, and at +200 threshold there was not a soul before the change either), it might be a problem of fiddling with the parameters, rather than of the algorithm itself.

Hi everybody!

Anyone can search -25/+500 if they like and it is perfect for our system. Most of the time it should lead to a game with an opponent close to your rating, from time to time it may find a higher rated player.

But if everyone on the site searches +100/+500, then nobody finds an opponent. Site dies.

Before the update, one might have been lucky to find much higher rated players, because our system was not good enough to match those higher rated guys with good opponents (and lower rated ones with good opponents for them).

If 1500 player wants to play higher rated players, they need to play and win 5-10 games against 1500-rated opponents. If they cannot win, it means they can learn chess from 1500 players. It doesn't destroy chances of learning! If they can win, it means their rating gets higher, reaches 1600 and they start getting more and more challenging opponents.

Best,

Piotr

I don't know, I've changed my settings (sigh) to + 30 - 30. I tried -50 and + 50 and it took 1 full minute to find an opponent. Repeteadly. I don't understand the logic behind it? I'd say the greater the difference, the more likely is to find one faster. Boh, mathematics and computers have never been a friend to me.-

Try leaving the Min and Max fields blank? The system is going to find good matches for your rating anyway.

Ok I'll try that thank you! And sorry to staff members if I sounded too agressive in my first comments!

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A lot of comments complaining because they say that playing against people with similar rating doesn't let them get good.

Bah, you can study more from books, tactics, etc and become better. So your rating will increase in the fair way.

chesscube

This makes me sad because Chess.com has been my favorite for a long time. It has everything. It's free and there is a huge number of people online at any given time. But I guess things change. I can no longer play the kind of chess I like to play on here. In a previous post I said it took me 10 mins to find an opponent but on several occasions since then I found myself waiting for 45 mins or more. This is completely unacceptable. I fail to understand this new skewed logic you insist on calling an upgrade. I'm in the process of looking for another site for playing chess but I'll keep checking here from time to time to see if you've come back to your senses. Good luck.

Superbeanz: you are 1660, but searching for 1750+. I've checked stats in the database and your opponents from last month were 1750+ on average and played mostly people about 1680 over last month. Now, they are getting higher rated players in seconds with average rating 1740. If you open up your rating range to -25/+500, you'll get games quickly.

Cheers

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Thank you for your reply.

Your proposed solution is far from ideal. It is too much of a gamble but I'm willing to give it a try just because I like this site.

I don't understand why you would keep the custom settings if they don't work anymore. Can you imagine new people joining, trying a custom setting and only getting a game after an hour? What are they gonna think? You can't offer options that don't actually work to people. 

I tried most of the chess sites around but this is the only one I come back to everyday. Everything worked great on Chess.com. Nothing needed to be changed. This new restriction is very strange and could harm your business in the long term. I doubt you were getting that many complaints with the old system. 

I'll keep my fingers crossed, hopefully you'll go back to your 'old logic' soon.

Please go back to the old system! It's exhausting waiting so long for all the games. :(

i've already cancelled my platinum membership and now about to stop using the site altogether. This is really a disaster, not only does it change the entire site for worse but changing something so fundamental when people have paid $100 for a product is insulting. Yes I'm angry, because my time is precious and chess.com was something valuable to me.
you could have easily aded a peer rating system to allow players to avoid the ones who spoil the site rather than penalising the rest of us