Openings do not matter

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in live chess.

 

That is, unless you are a pro. Here is an example:

I played a total nonesene opening and yet never was in real trouble. I figure, the advantage of my opponent not knowing the opening outweighs the disadvantage that the opening is bad...
 

Edit: Game was 5/0 blitz.

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Better idea would be to stick to general principles and sound openings otherwise big shoe will drop on you when you play better players.

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Hi Xerxeres--what you're saying is valid to some degree--that is, a dubious opening can still win the game.  You're basing that off of one example though, and black played at a level that probably would have allowed you to win with most anything.  It's different against an equal or better opponent, and there are certainly worse systems than 1. f3 / 2 Kf2 as well.  It impedes the g1 knight and usually requires the delay of artificial castling, but it's hardly a forced loss in its own right.  Black could have played ...e5 before allowing d4, 14...Nxa3 with a b4 push to defend it, and any number of other improvements to cause you to rethink your approach.  Think about it: did this person lose because the shock value of your opening forced immediate blunders, or because he slipped up in the middlegame as he might have done against any system?  In that sense your opening didn't matter, but why risk something inferior when you do meet an opponent closer to your strength?

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I agree that inaccuracies don't really matter, but if you play an opening like the one you just played you have a huge disadvantage with no compensation. 'Openings don't matter at amateur level' is complete rubbish imo.

Avatar of Ben_Dubuque

THE HAMMERSHLANG!!!! or as some C.c members would say one of the ECO's variations stollen from Lenny Bongcloud, famous for the Bongcloud Opening

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Thanks for the reply.

Please note, that my opponent had a rating of 15xx in blitz. As far as I remember, roughly 80-90% of all players are worse than that. That is why I claimed openings do not matter for most players (in blitz).

I agree with you that he lost because he 1) did not take advantage of my opening and 2) blundered in midgame. If I play a normal opening, say e4 e5 etc. even 1500ish opponents often know the first 10-15 moves whereas I know much less. In a 5 minute game, I therefore either lose too much time playing the opening or am in a bad position midgame /endgame. 

OTB chess is a totally different story, though.

Avatar of caveatcanis

6...Ne4+ would have been very good for Black.

Avatar of Xerxeres

@ sammynouri: My opponent had a much better blitz rating than you. Hence, I guess it would have worked against you too.

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 @ caveatcanis:

 

You are right. Hence my claim that players of our level (or worse like sammy) make so many mistakes that the opening does not matter. At least in blitz games.

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Xerxeres wrote:

@ sammynouri: My opponent had a much better blitz rating than you. Hence, I guess it would have worked against you too.

Blitz is my most played time limit, but I admit I suck at it. Standard and correspondence is my thing, the only reason blitz is my most played is I only play standard and my correspondence games when I'm feeling head clear, the rest of the time i stick to blitz. You are the better blitz player, but I still think that choosing the bongcloud did matter, and like you stated earlier your opponent failed to make a target of your king.

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so Vatican City is your country... really... cause thats kind of cool if true

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The shorter the time control ,the less critical the opening,but to say the opening doesn't matter at all is inaccurate.In fact it's quite easy to check  the accuracy of your assertion.For example,try playing nonsense as black;when you play nonsense as white all you are doing is eliminating whites inherent  opening advantage.

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What's the agenda here?

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